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Why the Army Doesn't Train on Xboxes
2010-02-10
So will the Army go out and buy the Xbox? Not quite. Roger Smith, chief technology officer for PEO STRI, the Army command responsible for purchasing training equipment, claims that Microsoft refused to sell him the consoles. Smith told me that he discussed acquiring the Xbox with Microsoft representatives at a trade show back in 2006. According to Smith, the Microsoft executives said they would neither sell the Xbox 360 nor license XNA game development tools to the Army for three reasons:

Microsoft was afraid that the military would buy up lots of Xbox 360s, but would buy only one game for each of them, so MS wouldn't make much money off of the games.
A big military purchase could create a shortage of Xbox 360s.
If the Xbox became an Army training device, it could taint its reputation. Microsoft was concerned that "do we want the Xbox 360 to be seen as having the flavor of a weapon? Do we want Mom and Dad knowing that their kid is buying the same game console as the military trains the SEALs and Rangers on?" Smith told me during an interview for Training & Simulation Journal.
It's hard to believe that Microsoft would risk a public relations disaster by refusing to sell products that would save the lives of American soldiers during time of war. So I contacted Microsoft, and received an e-mail response, or rather a response relayed through their outside PR agency Edelman.
Interesting story. In the mid-80s the agency I worked for after I got out of the Army was in the process of adding personal computers to its inventory and the competitors were Apple and IBM. Apple preferred not to sell to us because they were against war and stuff. IBM was perfectly happy to sell us PC/XTs with with enormous 10mb hard drives running PC/IX. We were very happy with them since we had Apollos and some other brand (can't remember what it was called) for graphics composition. That was a pretty big sale, and I believe DIA went with the IBM product at the same time for compatibility purposes.
Posted by:Fred

#7  I had a red ring of death a few years ago. Now my dvd seems to be going. Anyway, I often play without the headset to avoid listening when annoying kids are on, either that or I mute them or block them. I haven't really had any troubles. In Modern Warfare 1 I ran into annoying kids over and over until I simply couldn't stand listening to the headset anymore.

The military members talk smack to each other as well, but its at a higher level. They also tend to cooperate and have clan tags.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2010-02-10 23:30  

#6  Where are those games at rjschwarz? I seem to end up in rooms where my handful of hours and no map knowledge earns me a tirade by some punk kid who has weeks of game time and gets to cuss at people from distance before mom and dad get home (and I still get'm 1/4 times so I just smile)...but I can tell when players have a plan and tactic..I propose that for the military/police/etc types that comes from the real world training translating into game tactics. For those who get good solely by hours of play, they will not understand the difficulties of humping gear, decisions under dangerous conditions and fatigue, and that a battlefield is a bit more nuanced than the game, as quality as it is.

The Red Ring of Death is real. And there will be those people who would avoid buying an xbox simply because it would be the official game system of the military, that is real as well.

I could envision it, and please correct me if I'm wrong soldiers et al, as a compliment to training like a very interactive powerpoint, but could not be a substitute for getting out in the field simply because there is no depth perception (a learned ability, ever seen someone fresh from the city try to gauge country distances?) or environment stresses.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2010-02-10 12:47  

#5  I play Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 as often as possible and its a rare game when there isn't a cluster of Military online playing as well. Seems the DOD just needs to provide the games and perhaps a rebate for those reluctant or unable and the troops will manage to get their own equipment.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2010-02-10 12:22  

#4  Face saving are they? Really, because of existing laws and statutes governing government purchases, Microsoft couldn't afford to handle its liability because of the XBox's Red Ring of Death.

Loads of XBoxes are sold to the Army and Air Force Exchange system, a non-appropriated fund activity [which means the tax payers aren't paying for it], aka as the BX or PX. Those don't have the legal coverage for liability that a direct DoD materials contract has.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2010-02-10 09:21  

#3  But, but, but... I thought that with the new CinC everyone would love America, Ayatollahs would send us flowers and Microsoft would give Xboxes to the Army for free.
Posted by: JFM   2010-02-10 09:08  

#2  It will be interesting to see if IBM offers the Army a product based on the PowerXCell8 graphics-heavy gaming boards. They've used them to great effect in building high end supercomputers for Los Alamos National Labs, teaming them with Opteron PC-sytle boards.

The PowerXCell microprocessor was developed jointly with Sony (it's in Playstation 3s).

Posted by: lotp   2010-02-10 09:04  

#1  Wehell, I've seen various young men, teens to young adult, playing "COD:MODERN WARFARE 2" at the local Internet Cafe. Their XBOX 360's seem to have little difficulty being hooked up to the Cafe's systems.

FYI "MODERN WARFARE 2" looks pretty good from my vantage point [rear].
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-02-10 01:59  

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