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USA Politics: Rasmussen: Tea Party outpolls Republicans
2009-12-08
The notion that the Tea Party movement is a vocal minority in the Republican Party may have been put to rest today. A new three-way generic ballot from Rasmussen Reports finds that a Tea Party candidate would fare better than a Republican candidate, 23% to 18%, with the Democratic candidate coming out on top at 36%. The poll also found 22% remained undecided.

There is even better news for a Tea Party candidate when it comes to independents. They chose the Tea Party candidate (33%) over both the Democratic (25%) and Republican (12%) candidates. Nearly a third of independents were undecided at 30%.

The last generic congressional ballot poll from Rasmussen Reports on December 1 found Republicans edging in front of Democrats 44% to 37%.

For now, the leaders of the Tea Party Patriots want to remain a movement, not a third party. That's what Jenny Beth Martin, a national coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, told us last week.
2010 mid term elections could be very interesting if coalitions develop such as the independents, Tea Party, and Republicans or any two combinations of these three. It would mean the Democrats in the House could be in for a rough time. However, I don't know that independents and Republicans are as unified as the Tea Partiers over issues
Posted by:JohnQC

#14  When professionals of both parties treat the people as small children, those who should be seen but not heard, just what are the differences really?

You can find jerks in both parties, but there seem to be _more_ of them in the democrat party than in the republican party.

To more fully quantify the difference...



1Q 2007 is when the Democrats took over Congress. Since then unemployment's gone from 4 1/2% to 10%. So I guess you could call the difference 5 1/2 %, so far.

Also, The EPA has on its own decided to implement some sort of CO2 regulations, whether Congress acts or not. This didn't happen during the previous administration. It might be a small difference to you, but it's a big one to me. It'll probably kick that 10% unemployment rate up another 8 or so percent, IF we're lucky. If we're unlucky, it'll be worse.

There are other metrics you could use to see the change between the parties; here's money supply:



Finally, we could look at deficits:



When both professional organizations believe they know better than the little people at the ame time just demand more and more of the productivity of the people's labor for their own, just what are the differences? There's something about just letting it all fail sooner rather than later to speed up the process of cleaning the foundation now and start from scratch.

Maybe you have the savings to put into hard assets and ride out the weimar-style hyperinflation collapse, but I don't and neither do most people.

If you don't see more than the proverbial dime's worth of difference from the above charts, you're straining at gnats and swallowing camels. Which is your opinion, but you're talking about destroying other people's livelihoods in the process, in the hopes that you'll be getting a system that's closer to your ideas of perfection... and you would be starting a process you can't control. After all, I missed the part in history class where the Germans got sick of the hyperinflation and elected chicago-school libertarians; in our dimension, at least, they eventally put the Nazis in power.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2009-12-08 20:19  

#13  By 'us' I mean the country, not the Republican party ...
Posted by: lotp   2009-12-08 20:13  

#12  Assuming anything's left to rebuild with and that the weight of the obligations created in the meanwhile don't drown us all.
Posted by: lotp   2009-12-08 20:11  

#11  I suspect that treating the R's and D's as equal when they aren't...

When professionals of both parties treat the people as small children, those who should be seen but not heard, just what are the differences really? When both professional organizations believe they know better than the little people at the same time just demand more and more of the productivity of the people's labor for their own, just what are the differences? There's something about just letting it all fail sooner rather than later to speed up the process of cleaning the foundation now and start from scratch.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-12-08 19:46  

#10  If the Tea Party fields a candidate, the Dems win for sure. They are rubbing their hands already.

Hopefully, if TP policies don't prevail in the Republican primaries, they'll still vote Republican.
Posted by: KBK   2009-12-08 19:46  

#9  I suppose unless the Republicans manage to produce a balanced budget in spite of their minority status in Congress they're finished....

I suspect that treating the R's and D's as equal when they aren't, in spite of the R's not being perfect, is a recipie for eternal trillion dollar deficits and the hyperinflation hitting inside a couple years.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2009-12-08 17:08  

#8  I went to a tea party in Estes Park Co. Didn't know what to expect except rain. Some retired cop gave a rousing speech about the constitution, personel responsability, stupid spending, high taxes, and corruption in politics. So yea, I guess I could be a tea party person.
Posted by: bman   2009-12-08 16:52  

#7  Tea Parties != Republicans. Their appeal is much broader than that. Sadly for the Republicans, the Tea Party issues used to be theirs too. Having moved away from their core beliefs, Republicans are out of power and out of favor. Americans, on the other hand, continue to support the traditional message which the Tea Partiers picked up after the Republicans dropped it.
Posted by: Iblis   2009-12-08 10:32  

#6  ...try Tarpley's Store, Williamsburg VA.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-12-08 10:03  

#5  Anyone know where I can buy one of those tri-corners hats?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2009-12-08 08:41  

#4  Tea Party outpolls everyone because it is comprised of members of both parties that are pissed off at everyone.

The Republicans need to wake up and realize that people aren't only pissed at Democrats, they are pissed off and the ENTIRE GOVERNMENT AND BOTH PARTIES.
Posted by: DarthVader   2009-12-08 07:55  

#3  ..edging in front of Democrats 44% to 37%.

"edging"? No bias here, move along.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-12-08 07:49  

#2  23% of the men who work hard will eat better than the 41% who sit around and goof off.

And one man with a gun can tell 50 men with shovels to dig harder. Soda Jerks with good leadership can beat the whole NAZI army.

Bad ideas dont last long. And BS walks.
Posted by: Angleton9   2009-12-08 06:29  

#1  The latest numbers on health care reform shows that public opposition remains stable. Just 41% favor the plan proposed by President Obama and Congressional Democrats. Just 23% are strongly in favor of it.
Ah, yes, but it's the important 23%!
Posted by: Bobby   2009-12-08 05:44  

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