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Science & Technology
Climate Change 'Fraud'
2009-12-03
THE scientific consensus that mankind has caused climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a "load of hot air underpinned by fraud".

Professor Ian Plimer condemned the climate change lobby as "climate comrades" keeping the "gravy train" going.

In a controversial talk just days before the start of a climate summit attended by world leaders in Copenhagen, Prof Plimer said Governments were treating the public like "fools" and using climate change to increase taxes.

If you have to argue your science by using fraud, your science is not valid.

Professor Pilmer
He said carbon dioxide has had no impact on temperature and that recent warming was part of the natural cycle of climate stretching over billions of years.

Prof Plimer - author of Heaven and Earth: Global Warming, The Missing Science - told a London audience: "Climates always change. They always have and they always will. They are driven by a number of factors that are random and cyclical."

His comments came days after a scandal in climate-change research emerged through the leak of emails from the world-leading research unit at the University of East Anglia. They appeared to show that scientists had been massaging data to prove that global warming was taking place

The Climate Research Unit also admitted getting rid of much of its raw climate data, which means other scientists cannot check the subsequent research. Last night the head of the CRU, Professor Phil Jones, said he would stand down while an independent review took place.
Posted by:Fred

#4  Ok, the word 'both' would have helped for us plodding literalists. Thanks lotp.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2009-12-03 08:40  

#3  Re: 'random and cyclical' Plimer is correctly noting that there are both cyclical forces that affect climate and also random, non-recurring ones.
Posted by: lotp   2009-12-03 07:02  

#2  Its been my experience in life that Justice is what's to your own advantage. When a child doesnt get what he wants he says, "Its NOT FAIR!". If he DID get what he wanted he could give a flip for what is fair or not, he GOT what he wanted. That is BASIC Human Nature. You get what you want, when you want it and you get some gravy on it too, as long as you are there.

And screw Brussels and all the suits in Massachusetts. Buy a Green Coffin from Al Gore and get in it.

Global Warming is all of the above. How stupid are you? Global Warming is for stupid people. Chicken Little and Al Gore will take your money... and then laugh at you.

Hey, Dude, try not to freeze to death. And if they demand your wallet, carry a small .38 and surprise 'em. Tell 'em the Baby Seals sent 'ya.
Posted by: Angleton9   2009-12-03 05:06  

#1  Actually, I get hung up on the "random and cyclical" phrase but otherwise agree with him. I can't wrap my brain around random cycles (if it is cyclic it is not random) as it seems oxymoronic, but I know what he meant.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2009-12-03 04:10  

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