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More news on the Hasan case: warning signs
2009-11-13
From the Sonoma County news post; I put the non-medical information into the post and edited heavily to make it readable, something the MSM reporter didn't do.
President Barack Obama has ordered a review to determine if warning signs were mishandled of contact between Hasan and a radical Islamic cleric who encouraged Muslims to kill U.S. troops in Iraq.

Obama said he wanted all intelligence related to Hasan preserved and reviewed to determine whether it was properly shared and acted upon within the government. The first results are due Nov. 30. John Brennan, assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism, will oversee the review.

A joint terrorism task force overseen by the FBI learned late last year of Hasan's repeated contact with the cleric. The FBI said the task force did not refer early information about Hasan to superiors because it concluded he wasn't linked to terrorism.

Members of Congress also are pressing for a full investigation into why Hasan was not detected and stopped. A Senate hearing on Hasan is scheduled for next week.

Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, and others have called for a full examination of what agencies knew about Hasan's contacts with a radical imam and others of concern to the U.S., and what they did with the information. Hoekstra confirmed this week that the U.S. government knew of about 10 to 20 e-mails between Hasan and a radical imam, beginning in December 2008.

Months before the shootings, doctors and staff overseeing Hasan's training reported viewing him at times as defensive and argumentative in his frequent discussions of his faith, according to a military official familiar with several group discussions about Hasan. Hasan was characterized as a mediocre student and lazy worker, which concerned the doctors and staff at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, a military medical school in Bethesda, Md., the official said.
Not everyone who graduates from medical school is a Rhodes scholar. The person who graduates last is always addressed as, "Doctor." It's unfortunate, and some telling, that Hasan didn't take advantage of the education offered by Virginia Tech and the Uniformed Health Sciences medical school.
Even outside the military, Hasan's behavior drew attention. Golam Akhter, a civil engineer from Bethesda, Md., said Thursday that he had spoken with Hasan about 10 times at the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring before Hasan left for Texas last summer.

"He used to not believe that 9/11 was solely the work of Middle East people," Akhter said. "His main thing was, 'America is killing Muslims in the Middle East.' That made him very, very upset."

Akhter said he sensed that Hasan was "a troubled man" and feels guilty for not alerting others. "I tried to convince him to try to be a moderate Muslim," Akhter said.
I would like to believe that Mr. Akhter is a moderate Muslim. I would have liked to have had the reporter ask Mr. Akhter what he thinks a moderate Muslim is.
Hasan repeatedly referred to his strong religious views in discussions with classmates at Walter Reed, his superiors and even in his research work, the military official said. His behavior, while at times perceived as intense and combative, was not unlike the zeal of others with strong religious views.

But some doctors and staff were concerned that their unfamiliarity with the Muslim faith would lead them to unfairly single out Hasan's behavior, the official said. Some questioned Hasan's sympathies as an Army psychiatrist, whether he would be more aligned with Muslims fighting U.S. troops. There also was some concern about whether he should continue to serve in the military, the official said.

But they saw no signs of mental problems,
... other than the ones staring them in the face ...
no risk factors that would predict violent behavior. And the group discussed other factors that suggested Hasan would continue to thrive in the military, factors that mitigated their concerns, the official said.
Such as?
Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday he was appalled at news leaks about the investigation into last week's deadly shootings at Fort Hood. "Frankly if I found out with high confidence anybody who's leaking on the Department of Defense, who that was, that would probably be a career-ender," he told reporters traveling with him to Oshkosh, Wis. "Everybody ought to shut up."
Posted by:Steve White

#9  Don't forget to dip the bullets in Pig Blood first, be damn sure he ses it too.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2009-11-13 22:40  

#8  Procopius....excellent comment.

As a Muz he gets a Pass. We are bending over backwards to give them the angle on our butts.
Muz are just misunderstood religious people who are under "stress." Yeah?

They also kill you if you criticize them...so naturally the fairyboy Journalists will mince their words. Euphemisms are the order of the day for PC Liberals. Call it anything but what it IS!

Hasan was a TRAITOR. He also is a MOSLEM traitor.
He actually IS a Moslem traitor who MURDERS unarmed people. We got him alive now. Yeah.

And we get to kill him after a fair trial. We arent going to parole him, or send him to prison for life, we are going to hang his ass. Unless the military can have an old terminal and traditional Firing Squad. Sure we can.

Am I jumping to conclusions calling him a murderous Moslem coward and traitor? Am I being racist? He murdered 13 people who had every right to TRUST him as one of their own. He Tried and failed to kill another score. Lets have a trial and then stretch his neck. Yes we can.

I volunteer to pull the trigger if you dont want to do it yourself. (In a heartbeat.)
Hi, Hasan, got somethin' for 'ya.
Posted by: Angleton9   2009-11-13 20:58  

#7  Let's deal with it in the perspective that instead of Islam, an officer in Hasan's position had been spouting white supremacist dialogues and attending white supremacist aligned meetings advocating that others where inferior and killing them was justified. Do you really believe for a minute, the dude would have been out of the service a long time ago? Now go lie to yourself, that he wouldn't.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-11-13 19:50  

#6  ...old dying word RACISM....play4keeps, are you kidding? It used to be the race card your ilk threw down, now it's the race-deck.
Posted by: HammerHead   2009-11-13 19:27  

#5  Right, Dickhead. Cause Maj. Hasan is a "Darkie".

Oops, no he isnt. He could pass for any schmoe walking down a DC or TX street, except for the man dress, pistols, cries of allah ackbar and murderous intent in the service of islam.

Try peddling your Gramscian crap where the rubes eat it up like chocolate pudding. Like at Daily Kos.
Posted by: ed   2009-11-13 19:09  

#4  Please Please tell me that you guys and gals are not that far from reality Some of You sound just plain stupid and full of That old dying word RACISM.
"THIS GUY IS A DEAD WALKING DEAD MAN"
ANY BETS??????
Posted by: play4keeps   2009-11-13 18:18  

#3  What is completely missing from every call for investigation is the following phrase:

"So that the Army can better conduct an informed review of any similar scenarios/individuals that currently exist within the broader Army population."

Rules against "profiling" be damned - this is about an existential conflict between Islam and EVERYTHING ELSE - in which the outcome will ultimately be a battle of annihilation.

I certainly hope that "non-Islam" wins that battle.
Posted by: Lone Ranger   2009-11-13 12:27  

#2  Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday he was appalled at news leaks about the investigation into last week's deadly shootings at Fort Hood. "Frankly if I found out with high confidence anybody who's leaking on the Department of Defense, who that was, that would probably be a career-ender," he told reporters traveling with him to Oshkosh, Wis. "Everybody ought to shut up."

The "news leaks" are taking place because people within the community are mad as HELL and reporting the TRUTH! Have any of the "leaks" been found to be FALSE? No you say?

"Shut up" about what? The damage is already done. There are 13 soldiers and civilians dead along with one unborn, and 42 more wounded. Lets have a look at who knew what and when they knew it. A little transparency if you will Mr. Secretary. And when the dust settles, heads of the guilty on the rail of the Memorial Bridge please.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-11-13 12:04  

#1  Ever see a cat franticly scratching a Tile floor trying to bury it's poop?

Watch here and you'll see it again.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2009-11-13 11:52  

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