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Home Front: Culture Wars
CNN Drops to Last Place Among Cable News Networks
2009-10-28
CNN, which invented the cable news network more than two decades ago, will hit a new competitive low with its prime-time programs in October, finishing fourth -- and last -- among the cable news networks with the audience that all the networks rely on for their advertising.
CNN used to serve up news. It wasn't too unfair, too unbalanced, and it had nothing to fear...
The official monthly numbers will be finalized at 4 p.m. Monday and will include results from Friday. CNN executives conceded that will not change the competitive standing for the month. CNN will still be last in prime time. That means CNN's programs were behind not only Fox News and MSNBC, but even its own sister network HLN (formerly Headline News.)
Formerly the little brother of CNN...
Three of its four shows between 7 and 11 p.m. finished fourth and last among the cable news networks. That was the first time CNN had finished that poorly with its prime-time shows. The results demonstrate once more the apparent preference of viewers for opinion-oriented shows from the news networks in prime time.
Rather it demonstrates that viewers prefer their news separate from the presenters' opinions...
CNN has steered opinion hosts like Nancy Grace to HLN, while maintaining more news-oriented shows on CNN itself. When news events are not being intensely followed, CNN executives acknowledge, viewers seem to be looking for partisan views more than objective coverage.
I watched CNN a couple years ago when I was out of the country -- everything else was in Spanish. I was surprised at how bad it had become...
Individually, the CNN shows were beaten resoundingly by all the Fox News programs, but also lost to all of the MSNBC programs, including a repeat of Keith Olbermann's 8 p.m. edition of "Countdown," which beat the 10 p.m. hour of CNN's signature prime-time program, "Anderson Cooper 360."

Again that was a first. Mr. Cooper had 211,000 viewers to 223,000 for Mr. Olbermann's repeat. That meant Mr. Cooper finished fourth and last in the 10 p.m. hour because, besides being well behind the leader, Greta Van Susteren, who had 538,000 viewers, he was also beaten by a repeat of Nancy Grace's 8 p.m. show on HLN, which averaged 222,000.

For the month, CNN averaged 202,000 viewers between the ages of 25 and 54 -- the group that television news organizations use as their basis of success because of their advertising sales. That was far behind the dominant leader, Fox News, which averaged 689,000. But it also trailed MSNBC, which had 250,000 viewers in that group and HLN, which had 221,000.

The only CNN show from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. that did not finish last was Larry King, which was third, ahead of the new Joy Behar show on HLN. But Sean Hannity's show on Fox News had a huge lead with 659,000 viewers in that age group. Second was Rachel Maddow on MSNBC with 242,000.
Mr. King averaged 224,000 and Ms. Behar 181,000.

At 7 p.m. CNN's host, Lou Dobbs was fourth, barely beaten by Jane Velez Mitchell on HLN, 166,000 to 162,000. The big winner was Shepard Smith on Fox with 465,000 viewers. Second was Chris Matthews and "Hardball" on MSNBC, with 179,000 viewers.

CNN's performance was worst in the 8 p.m. hour. Bill O'Reilly on Fox News continued his long dominance with the biggest numbers of any host, 881,000 viewers. Mr. Olbermann, with his first-run program, was second with 295,000. Close behind was the first edition of Ms. Grace's show with 269,000. Campbell Brown on CNN trailed with only 162,000.

CNN executives emphasized that the network continues to draw more viewers than all its competitors except Fox News when all hours of the day are counted. CNN released a statement Monday saying, "CNN's ratings are always going to be more dependent on the news environment, much more so than opinion-based programming especially in prime time."
Posted by:Fred

#12  The key is if he [Turner] can regain the audience's trust that they are getting the truth from him. Posted by: Richard of Oregon

Very doubtful, very, very doubtful.
Posted by: Besoeker    2009-10-28 18:38  

#11  curse the whole gambit. And yes, screw you too ted.
Posted by: newc   2009-10-28 17:35  

#10  It will be interesting to see if ted picks up the reins at CNN again. He's sharp and he could turn things around. Or he might swing it further left and hasten it's demise. The question is which Ted Turner is going to show up for work. If the flaming Liberal Ted barges into CNN's executive offices, he'll leap frog MSNBC going even further left and CNN will quickly die. If instead, Mr. Turner, the Capitalist, walks into his old office, I predict a major remake of CNN. Basically, he will copy what is successful about Fox, package it in a nice liberal suit and resuscicate. The key is if he can regain the audience's trust that they are getting the truth from him.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon   2009-10-28 15:25  

#9  I haven't really watched TV for a year. Everything on it seems to suck!

This is why I watch reruns of McHales Navy and Bob Newhart
Posted by: armyguy   2009-10-28 12:14  

#8  LE5091 is certainly right. Not just propaganda, but whiny, annoying and loud at the same time.

To the airport management: I don't need to be assaulted with noise the entire time I'm in your facility. I'm really just looking for some peace and quiet while I wait to board an aluminum mailing tube. I can read a book or a magazine; I can listen to my iPod; I can chat with a friend. Turn the damned TVs off. Thank you for your attention.
Posted by: Steve White   2009-10-28 11:14  

#7  LE5091 is exactly right, turn off the airport cnn station and really get a gauge on how few people watch that channel. Same with newspeak and docters' offices, USAtoday/NYT and hotels.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2009-10-28 10:54  

#6  The International CNN broadcast in airports and bars abroad and the Caribbean is pure propaganda. Fox is a breath of fresh air and I try to patronize those establishments if there is a choice.
Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091   2009-10-28 10:41  

#5  When news events are not being intensely followed, CNN executives acknowledge, viewers seem to be looking for partisan views more than objective coverage.

That's right! Keep those heads down the hole and keep slurping that Kool-Aid.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2009-10-28 10:39  

#4  I haven't really watched TV for a year. Everything on it seems to suck!
Posted by: 3dc   2009-10-28 09:28  

#3  Since when has CNN reported what is really going on?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2009-10-28 09:06  

#2  Why watch CNN when you already know what's going to happen?
Posted by: JohnQC   2009-10-28 08:04  

#1  Looks like poor Ted is gonna have to tighten his belt another notch.
Posted by: ed   2009-10-28 00:42  

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