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India-Pakistan
60 killed in anti-Taliban offensive - army
2009-10-18
PAKISTAN'S military says that 60 militants were killed during the first 24 hours of a major offensive against the Taliban in South Waziristan.

It was the first militant death toll released today by the military since ground troops, backed by fighter jets, launched the operation yesterday.

The figures were impossible to confirm with the battleground sealed off to journalists and all communications in the area shut down.

"In last 24 hours, reportedly 60 terrorists have been killed in operation Rah-e-Nijat. Casualties of security forces are five soldiers and 11 are injured," the military said.

A spokesman said that troops in the field submitted the casualty report to headquarters in the garrison city of Rawalpindi, which was besieged by Islamist gunmen last week.

In operations in the east, 30 militants were killed and two soldiers died with troops extending their control up to Mandana, on the road to Kotkai, the home town of Pakistani Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud.

Around Sherwangi, where security officials have reported the heaviest Taliban resistance, the military said 20 militants and one soldier died.

The military said "important features and tactical heights" around Razmak have been secured, costing the lives of two soldiers and killing 10 militants.
Posted by:tipper

#5  WAFF > TALIBAN IN PAKISTAN WARN CHRISTIAN LEADERS TO CONVERT TO ISLAM OR FACE DIRE CONSEPQUENCES.

You can just feel the PEACE + COMPROMISE + MUTUAL FAIRNESS, can't ye???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-10-18 21:37  

#4  OTOH WMF > OVER 40 TALIBAN KILLED AFTER REGIONAL COMMANDER DRACULA AKBARI SURRENDERS TO GOVT.

Ouch.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-10-18 21:35  

#3  Yes, but does that mean the Mighty Pakistani Army has followed suit, Anonymoose? Or the Iraqis or the Afghans?
Posted by: trailing wife   2009-10-18 20:39  

#2  By now, the whole region must be aware of the US practice of strongly under-counting enemy dead. This about drove the friendly Afghans bonkers until we explained our very good reasons for doing so.

It completely goes against the grain of macho braggadocio, but leaves the enemy thinking they are stronger than they really are--the worst possible situation for planning. Which is why western armies have been obsessive about personnel counts going way back.

It leaves the bad guyz not knowing if their personnel were killed, deserted, are lost, just hiding, or what. So they have to send a supervisor/paymaster with every group. And if he gets killed, they don't get paid. Bad all the way around.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2009-10-18 18:42  

#1  In the past I found the correction factor for Pakistani casualty claims to be about 30; if it still holds for (presumably) top tier Pak units then these actions would have cost 5 Pak soldiers to kill 2 Taliban. That doesn't sound like an unrealistic ratio for moderately modern units attacking well dug-in defenses.
Posted by: Glenmore   2009-10-18 10:10  

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