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| Michael Moore suddenly not so sure about his support for ObamaCare... |
| 2009-10-02 |
| Smokers, Overweight People to Face Fine Under Health Bill (Newsmax) The Senate Finance Committee approved an amendment to the healthcare bill Wednesday that would allow employers to charge workers with unhealthy lifestyles more for their insurance coverage. The amendment would permits employers to adjust premiums as much as 50 percent according to the level of workers' health habits, up from 20 percent now. Opponents, including the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association, counter that the new rule may spur insurers and companies to keep basing coverage decisions on pre-existing conditions, even though the bill itself prohibits that. |
| Posted by:Beavis |
| #16 With regard to this issue, it's lucky for Ted that he checked out already. If Congress had leveled the playing field and got the same care as the just plain Joes, he would have been in deep sh*t. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2009-10-02 19:14 |
| #15 Yeah, how about raising the Medicare supplemental premiums because "You're getting too old"? |
| Posted by: KBK 2009-10-02 18:18 |
| #14 Snicker. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-10-02 18:15 |
| #13 If I was Lumpy Riefenstahl, I'd be more worried about rulings by the International Whaling Commission than anything to do with ObamaCare. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2009-10-02 17:08 |
| #12 Maybe they can call it Cash for Chronic illness. AKA Medicare. |
| Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 2009-10-02 16:15 |
| #11 Soz, I got mixed up with Gorbs comment. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2009-10-02 15:14 |
| #10 That is my point and I suggest Health Insurance is not off base for comparing attitudes and genetic disposition and adjusting premiums to match. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2009-10-02 15:05 |
| #9 > Still, some people might have genetic predispositions to drive quickly So car insurance shouldn't vary with age as testosterone does? Insurance should vary with risk. If you don't want that then don't call it insurance, it's a moral hazard subsidy. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2009-10-02 13:54 |
| #8 Gorb has a point, assuming the scientists don't change their minds on that sort of thing as they are want to do. Still, some people might have genetic predispositions to drive quickly or be distracted while driving and they are forced to pay more for car insurance. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2009-10-02 13:14 |
| #7 Moore must have read where the BO administration is considering higher premiums for ah, er, weight-gifted people. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2009-10-02 12:52 |
| #6 #5 I can just imagine big, fat slobs like Michael Moore sitting in front of the death panels and listening to them tell him..."We're sorry, Mr. Moore, but in view of you refusal to control your weight we've determined that it isn't cost effective to allocate anymore of the nation's medical resources to your case." Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-10-02 11:51 My thoughts exactly. However, I want to see the same standards applied to ALL elected officials as well as any libs who support this debacle known as ObamaCare. |
| Posted by: WolfDog 2009-10-02 12:24 |
| #5 I can just imagine big, fat slobs like Michael Moore sitting in front of the death panels and listening to them tell him..."We're sorry, Mr. Moore, but in view of you refusal to control your weight we've determined that it isn't cost effective to allocate anymore of the nation's medical resources to your case." |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-10-02 11:51 |
| #4 I don't think basing premiums on your lifestyle will fly. Some folks have genetic predispositions to being fat. |
| Posted by: gorb 2009-10-02 11:41 |
| #3 Hah…healthy lifestyle mandates are just one side of the coin. Wait ‘till Health Care Affirmative Action stokes up. We need to start getting minority health rates on a level playing field. After all, we can’t ignore the years of social injustice suffered by the historically “clinically disadvantaged”. Maybe they can call it Cash for Chronic illness. |
| Posted by: DepotGuy 2009-10-02 11:33 |
| #2 I strongly favour rules that align risk and premiums. The alternative is to force the healthy to subsidise the habits of the unhealthy(with all the moral hazard that entails). |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2009-10-02 11:29 |
| #1 Don't worry, thanks to capitalism Mr. Moore can afford it ... |
| Posted by: Steve White 2009-10-02 10:52 |