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Five Years Later - Beslan school massacre
2009-08-09
Posted by:3dc

#9  Agreed, Rambler, but doesn't anymore.
Posted by: trailing wife   2009-08-09 23:17  

#8  AC, that bears repeating.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2009-08-09 22:10  

#7  During the immediate aftermath, one of the fleeing terrorists was caught by vigilantes and skinned alive right in front of media cameras (though they cut away when the director realized what was happening). I remember just shrugging this off, wondering at the level of barbarity it took to make me so callous.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2009-08-09 19:48  

#6  I read Robert Young Pelton's account of his travels to Chechnya and the war there. You have no-holds-barred Chechan jihadis taking out Russian draftees by the dozens, followed by WW2 style Russian artillery barrages into Grozny. I did not find anything on his site on Chechnya, but I found a neat description of Pakistan for your Sunday reading pleasure:

Pakistan: Dodge City with Skiing

The Scoop
Pakistan is still the classic adventurerÂ’s paradise, a wild mountainous region (to the north) and an arid wasteland (to the south), inhabited by fierce warring tribes and squabbling minorities. The isolation and poverty are positively biblical in the smaller towns. The big cities make Blade Runner look like a Caribbean resort. Sensory-numbing amounts of noise, dirt, poverty, temperature extremes, crime and general mayhem send most travelers fleeing to New York seeking peace and quiet. But as many Pakistanis point out, donÂ’t forget India is worse. Pakistan offers natural, archaeological and historical sites, as well as a wealth of interesting backwaters. Amazingly, amongst this Third World developmental disaster, the Pakistani people are some of the most handsome, generous and engaging to be met on this planet, despite their constant warfare and banditry.

Pakistan has been pushed closer to the edge by the massive influx of weapons and refugees caused by wars in Afghanistan and conflict with India. There are a lot of guns in Pakistan with a lot of people who use them on a regular basis. Tourists are kidnapped for ransom but have not been harmed or executed (though a Swede was killed in 1991 in a messy government rescue attempt). Your health is definitely at risk; everything from cobras to dengue-carrying mosquitoes can end it all rather suddenly. Mountainous highways and insane drivers make PakistanÂ’s roads a killing ground. Much of the country is not under the control of the government but ruled by tribes. Professional bandits prey on poor and rich alike. What better place for a stroll through the countryside?
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2009-08-09 15:00  

#5  I think it has more to do with Afghan heroin, P2k.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-08-09 12:07  

#4  Also one of the reasons that while Putin & Co. would love sticking it to us, they let the material transit to Afghanistan knowing we're killing some left overs there that they don't have to deal with.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-08-09 12:06  

#3  The Beslan massacre had the side-effect of making so-called Chechen freedom-fighters absolutely untouchable, as far as sympathy from the West was concerned. I am sure there were lots of people like me, who felt some kind of vague sympathy for and concern about how the Chechens were being treated by the Russians, in what amounted to a civil war. After Beslan, though - I definitely ceased to care. If the Chechens had any sort of righteous cause going, Beslan sank it beyond any retrieval.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom   2009-08-09 09:01  

#2  Peace loving Muslim, wasn`t he ?
Posted by: Dave UK   2009-08-09 07:44  

#1  If anyone deserves to be rotting in hell, Shamil Basayev certainly does.

I hope that piece of shit died in great pain.
Posted by: NCMike   2009-08-09 07:27  

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