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Thousands rally again in streets of Iran's capital
2009-06-17
Basic coverage of the most recent events here if you need to catch up.
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Thousands of pro-reform protesters marched Tuesday in a second straight day of large street demonstrations in the Iranian capital, defying the government after the clerical regime said it would recount some disputed ballots from the presidential election.

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Iranians to unite behind the cleric-led ruling system despite the rival demonstrations and street clashes, state television reported, and he said representatives of all four candidates should be present for any limited recount of disputed ballots. "In the elections, voters had different tendencies, but they equally believe in the ruling system and support the Islamic Republic," said Khamenei, who is Iran's ultimate authority.
Ain't necessarily so ...
The supporters of reformist candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi marched about the same time--but in a different location--as a state-organized rally that also drew thousands of people waving flags and pictures of Iran's supreme leader in an apparent attempt to reclaim the streets for the government.

Following a demonstration of hundreds of thousands of Mousavi supporters on Monday, the regime issued tough restrictions on journalists, barring foreign media from covering rallies in Tehran.

Witnesses and amateur video showed a large column of Mousavi supporters walking peacefully along a central avenue in north Tehran. A witness told The Associated Press that the pro-Mousavi rally stretched more than a mile (1.5 kilometers) along Vali Asr avenue, from Vanak Square to the headquarters of Iranian state television.

Security forces did not interfere, the witness said, and the protest lasted from about 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. Other witnesses told the AP that about 100 people were still protesting in front of state TV around 9:45 p.m. A correspondent for state-controlled Press TV correspondent said the crowd carried banners of Mousavi, wore green headbands and covered their mouths in an apparent defense against tear gas.

The clerical government appears to be trying to defuse popular anger and quash unrest by announcing the limited recount even as it cracks down on foreign media and shows its strength by calling supporters to the streets.

"This nation will protect and defend its revolution in any way," Gholam Ali Haddad Adel, a prominent lawmaker and supporter of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, told the pro-government crowd in Vali Asr Square. The people pumped their fists in the air and cheered in support, images on state-run television showed.

Iranian state media said the government organized the rally to demand punishment for those who protested violently after Monday's rally. Mousavi has said he won Friday's balloting and has demanded the government annul Ahmadinejad's victory and conduct a new election.

Khamenei said Monday the government would conduct an investigation into the election. The move seemed intended to calm protester anger but was followed by a rally of hundreds of thousands of people that presented one of the greatest challenges to Iran's government since it took power in the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

In Washington, President Barack Obama said the disputed election revealed a change in expectations among voters and perhaps their leaders, but he stopped short of saying the balloting was rigged.

"I do believe that something has happened in Iran," with Iranians more willing to question the government's "antagonistic postures" toward the world, Obama said. "There are people who want to see greater openness, greater debate, greater democracy."

Iran's state radio said seven people were killed in clashes from Monday's protest--the first official confirmation of deaths linked to the street battles following the disputed election.

Witnesses saw people firing from the roof of a building used by a state-backed militia after some Mousavi supporters set fire to the building and tried to storm it.

Mousavi supporters had called for demonstrations Tuesday but Mousavi said in a message in his Web site he would not be attending any rally and asked his supporters to "not fall in the trap of street riots" and "exercise self-restraint."
Posted by:Steve White

#8  1. I havent heard a word out of the Tudeh party, the old mainstream Commie party in Iran. I think they sort of went dud a while ago. There is an active labor movement (bus drivers, for example) who have done strikes in the past - I think they support Moussavi, and are not totalitarians. MEK, the commie group that used to be based in Iraq, and which we have supported from time to time, has a website, but I dont think they are real strong in country.

Really, a commie takeover most unlikely, and even if they did, given the absence of a genooine commie regime to give them support (dont call billionaire supporters in Beijing commies, please) I dont think they would be real strong.

If there is an analogy to 1917, its Moussavi as Kerensky, and genuine pro-western secularists as Lenin. Except in this case Moussavi is rather more ruthless than the secularists, and the peace land bread issues arent there.

No, best analogy of all is Romania, 1989. Genuine hunger for liberty on the street, being manipulated by moderate elements of the regime to dispose of the dangerous loony elements of the regime. In romania it eventually worked out relatively well. No assurance it will get that far in Iran, but likely not to get worse.
Posted by: liberal hawk   2009-06-17 16:23  

#7  I guess I'm thinking more along the lines of Moscow 1917 where there were competing forces waiting to wrest control from Czar Nicholas II. It'd be a bummer if the Iranians swapped mullahs for commies.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-06-17 14:58  

#6  Pre-Islamic Persia had an historical event that sort of translates to "The day they killed all the priests". One can hope the spirit lives on.
Posted by: Bertie Ebbuns4652   2009-06-17 14:49  

#5  ebang

by rally and showing the regime cant stop them, they rob the regime of its image of power and authority. That is the first step, and the biggest. Where they head next depends on many things, including how the regime security forces break. There are videos showing uniformed police smiling at crowds - at the same token the folks breaking heads in all seem to be baseegi militia, and some spec riot police. The reg army is quiet, and so far the uniformed Rev Guards seem to be mainly quiet. Which way they go has a huge impact. Think Tiananmen and Burma - but also think Moscown 1991, and Bucharest 1989.

If all of the security forces stay loyal to khameni and dinnerjacket, that makes things very, very hard. But the situation is almost certainly fluid. Certainly grabbing for control of govt ministries now is probably not a good idea.

note also, there are rumors Rafsanjani is trying to get the expediency council to fire Khameni. that is nominally legal under their islamic constitution, but its never been done.
Posted by: liberal hawk   2009-06-17 14:27  

#4  If anything significant is going to come of all this they are going to have to do more than just rally. At some point they will either get organized and take some kind of action or else let the whole thing fizzle. Waiting for a recount of the votes is pointless unless they use that time to get organized and come up with some kind of a plan. Mousavi may have been the spark that ignited the protests but it sounds like he is ready to knuckle under after a bogus recount shows that he lost the bogus election. The fix was in from the get go and he had to at least suspect as much. The question is: will anyone have the skills and support from the masses to organize a putsch and, if so, who?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-06-17 12:22  

#3  JohnQC,

One he can't. Its all about him not them. So why would he so soon contradict himself from his Cairo speech? Secondly, he is not a democrat in terms of Democracy/Liberty/Pursuit of Happiness - he is a Marxist radical with the largest narcissistic ego in the history of our great Republic. None of this works for HIM.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2009-06-17 10:50  

#2  It would be nice if BO had a statement of support for the people of Iran. A statement of support for democracy and fair elections.
Posted by: JohnQC   2009-06-17 10:34  

#1  The people who fixed the election have promised to investigate the question of whether or not the election was fixed. Hmm, I wonder what they will conclude.
Posted by: Odysseus   2009-06-17 07:36  

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