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| ŽTaliban will never be defeatedŽ |
| 2009-06-08 |
| [Bangla Daily Star] The United States is planning to send an additional 21,000 troops to Afghanistan to neutralise the Taliban, but would never achieve its goals, claims a mentor of Taliban chief Mullah Omar. Amir Sultan Tarar alias 'Colonel Imam' said allied forces would not be able to overpower their enemies in Afghanistan. He said the military offensive would only aggravate the situation, and therefore the allied forces should initiate talks with the Taliban to resolve the issues. "You can never win the war in Afghanistan.I have worked with these people since the 1970s and I tell you they will never be defeated. Anyone who has come here, has got stuck. The more you kill, the more they will expand," he said. Tarar had run a training programme for Afghans during the Soviet Union's invasion between 1979 and 1989, and played a vital role in forming the Taliban, The Times reports. He claimed to have trained Mullah Omar in the 1980's. "Omar passed through the camp in 1985.He was a simple man, a small commander leading a maximum of 40 people and didn't have much weaponry," Tarar recalled. He also lashed out at former Pakistan President General Pervez Musharraf for siding with the US after the 9/11 incident. Tarar said Musharraf had severed ties with the Taliban under American pressure. "You cannot defeat these people, they are well trained, they have a lot of ammunition and the more you kill, the more supporters will come," Tarar recalled telling Musharraf. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #11 ION PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > WATER DISPUTE MAY TRIGGER NUCLEAR WAR WITH INDIA [Widout water, PAKIS could become a DESERT IN 10-15 YEARS]. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2009-06-08 21:29 |
| #10 Nuking Riyadh, Mecca, and Medina is also an option, one that may eventually prove necessary. Don't forget Jeddah. |
| Posted by: Flater White1380 2009-06-08 18:38 |
| #9 Arthur: (tiring of this) What're you going to do, bleed on me? Black Knight: I'm *INVINCIBLE*!!! Arthur: You're a looney.... Black Knight: The Black Knight ALWAYS TRIUMPHS! Have at you!! (hopping around, trying to kick Arthur with his one remaining leg) Arthur shrugs his shoulders and, with a mighty swing, removes the Black Knight's last limb. The Knight falls to the ground. He looks about, realizing he can't move. Black Knight: Okay, we'll call it a draw. Arthur: Come, Pasty! (they "ride" away) Black Knight: (calling after them) Oh! Had enough, eh? Come back and take what's coming to you, you yellow bastards!! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off! |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2009-06-08 15:55 |
| #8 We have one option that WILL defeat the Taliban - and any other group. We can back off and nuke 'em until there are no living things in Afghanistan, and it ceases to exist. We'd also need to nuke the entire "Pashtunistan" area of Pakistan as well, but we COULD do it. It's not an ideal solution, but a last resort. While no one would really WANT to do that, it's an option we have. Nuking Riyadh, Mecca, and Medina is also an option, one that may eventually prove necessary. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2009-06-08 14:41 |
| #7 The truth is that they cannot be defeated, only destroyed. This is because they are already in defeat, in the contest between civilization and barbarity. They only way they could even theoretically "win" would be to utterly destroy civilization. Otherwise, all they can do is rule over prisoners who seek escape to civilization. Because even ignorant peasants realize there is no way to survive under the rule of "whim". The Taliban are true barbarians, who can never succeed. Comparing them to the Germanic tribes that defeated Rome is not a good comparison, because those tribes had a system of laws that were actually better than Roman law. Just less urban. They innovated such things as trial by jury, trial advocacy, and the equality of warriors. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2009-06-08 09:45 |
| #6 Don't have to defeat them. Just reduce their power enough for another group to ascend in the power vacuum. And there's always someone else waiting for an opportunity. You don't have to be faster than the bear, just someone else in your group. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2009-06-08 08:18 |
| #5 The operative word is 'will'. The Taliban CAN be defeated if we have the WILL to do it, but we probably do not have the WILL so they probably WILL not be defeated. |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2009-06-08 07:41 |
| #4 It's Islam who needs to be defeated---not Taliban. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2009-06-08 03:36 |
| #3 I tells ya, the taliban ain't human. They're planaria. |
| Posted by: ed 2009-06-08 01:07 |
| #2 Anyone who has come here, has got stuck. The more you kill, the more they will expand," he said. Now just who would be fatalistic enough to believe that $hit? |
| Posted by: gorb 2009-06-08 00:57 |
| #1 Why not make it an adventure tourism industry? Come to beautiful Afghanistan, shoot a taliban and take home the |
| Posted by: ed 2009-06-08 00:43 |