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2009-05-30 | |||||
![]() Predator spy planes are unmanned aerial vehicles that are virtually invisible when flying overhead. The Air Force uses them frequently in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where they are able to track and hit targets from the air when mountainous terrain makes it notoriously hard to send troops. "That's the spooky thing about the Predator," national security and terrorism expert Neil Livingstone said. "Even if the Predator is directly overhead and you know it's overheard, you still can't see it or hear it. This is kind of like death out of the blue." Human rights activists are turning their attention to the drone program in part because they say there's no warning to innocent civilians who are in a targeted area. Gabor Rona, international legal director of Human Rights First, a U.S.-based group that advocates universal rights and freedom, said large number of civilians are being unintentionally hit, harmed and killed. "This is not only a violation of the international laws of war," he said. "It's bad policy."
It's undeniable that more civilians have been killed than actual Al Qaeda terrorists in the 16 Predator strikes this year. But there's little chance that could change. "So many of these guys surround themselves with collateral casualties," Livingstone said, and large numbers of women and children are strategically placed around hotbeds of activity.
"Our military fighting in Afghanistan has got to be able to pursue high level (operatives) who flee across the border from Afghanistan into Pakistan," said Matt Bennett, a national security expert for a Washington-based think tank. On the presidential campaign trail, Obama had said that if there was legitimate intelligence about high-level Al Qaeda personnel he would not hesitate to act. And although there's no formal agreement between the U.S. and Pakistan when it comes to Predator drone attacks, Pakistan more or less looks the other way. Even so, human rights advocates continue to grow more disillusioned by the president's decisions on the Guantanamo military commissions and his refusal to release photos of alleged detainee abuse by U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as other national security issues. The Predator program, which is a holdover from the Bush administration, could be the next legal battle.
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Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC |
#10 You know what, we should say fine, no more predators. Each time we would have used a predator, we'll use a 50kt tacnuke instead. Sure it may actually kill a few more civilians than drones, but at least we won't be using our Evil Skynet killing machines or whatever. When will these twits learn that peace is /earned/ through strength, not through cowering. |
Posted by: Silentbrick 2009-05-30 22:24 |
#9 And they are machiavellian, and don't mind when others are, as long as its done quietly so it doesn't weigh on their "conscience" |
Posted by: GirlThursday 2009-05-30 21:45 |
#8 Human rights activists always seem to champion the rights of terrorists. At the least, they cater to the proclivities of their donors. At the worst, it's what's best for the activists themselves. |
Posted by: Pappy 2009-05-30 20:42 |
#7 You have to wonder about the loyalties of those challenging the drones cuz they are very effective and the risk to troops are minimal. Human rights activists always seem to champion the rights of terrorists. |
Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2009-05-30 19:11 |
#6 This is the usual case of people who think they know what they are talking about making things up. Both Predators and Reapers stream live video to the Mobile Ground Control Station where it is analyzed and recorded. When a decision to shoot is made, the results are also streamed back and analyzed. If there were excessive civilian casualties, it would be recorded and documented. There may be casualties, but EVERY shot is taken only after considerable deliberation. Predators and Reapers provide persistent surveillance of time sensitive targets. With a Predator or Reaper CAP, the pilots can afford to wait until they get the shot they want. Casualties are minimized. These people are the usual bullshit artists making it up as they go along. |
Posted by: rwv 2009-05-30 17:06 |
#5 A few of these "human rights" idiots need to have a discussion with a hickory axehandle. They should also be drafted and used in Afghanistan to count militant casualties, according to the Army Manual that governs that. I think a year or two of that would change a few "hearts and minds", but I may be wrong. War is the activity that results when all "legal and moral" activities have been exhausted. "Rules of War" are always self-imposed: otherwise there are no "rules". The purpose of war is to force the other side to either surrender or die. There is no middle ground, and all the "saints" in Washington can't make it so. |
Posted by: Old Patriot 2009-05-30 13:15 |
#4 "Even if the Predator is directly overhead and you know it's overheard, you still can't see it or hear it. This is kind of like death out of the blue." So it's humane then. A nice quick execution. |
Posted by: Parabellum 2009-05-30 12:52 |
#3 This article should be titled: "How to ensure America gets attacked within the coming year- Ban the Predator Drone!" This makes me sick to my stomach. The only part of this article i enjoyed was: "Even if the Predator is directly overhead and you know it's overheard, you still can't see it or hear it. This is kind of like death out of the blue." F*CKING AWESOME. I HOPE IT KILLS SENIOR AL QAEDA MEMBERS IN BED OR WHILE THEY ARE IN THE BATHROOM OR BETTER YET WHILE THEY ARE WALKING WITH THEIR FAMILY. NO MERCY-NO RETREAT. |
Posted by: bgrebel 2009-05-30 12:48 |
#2 This article starring: should also include "Human Rights First", because by committing an act of lawfare, in support of the enemy, they in effect are involved in the conflict. |
Posted by: Anonymoose 2009-05-30 11:56 |
#1 how bout this. don't announce every time you use 1 too take someone out |
Posted by: funky skunk 2009-05-30 10:14 |