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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Sun Oddly Quiet -- Hints at Next "Little Ice Age"?
2009-05-05
A prolonged lull in solar activity has astrophysicists glued to their telescopes waiting to see what the sun will do next--and how Earth's climate might respond.

The sun is the least active it's been in decades and the dimmest in a hundred years. The lull is causing some scientists to recall the Little Ice Age, an unusual cold spell in Europe and North America, which lasted from about 1300 to 1850.

The coldest period of the Little Ice Age, between 1645 and 1715, has been linked to a deep dip in solar storms known as the Maunder Minimum. During that time, access to Greenland was largely cut off by ice, and canals in Holland routinely froze solid. Glaciers in the Alps engulfed whole villages, and sea ice increased so much that no open water flowed around Iceland in the year 1695.

But researchers are on guard against their concerns about a new cold snap being misinterpreted. "[Global warming] skeptics tend to leap forward," said Mike Lockwood, a solar terrestrial physicist at the University of Southampton in the U.K.

He and other researchers are therefore engaged in what they call "preemptive denial" of a solar minimum leading to global cooling. Even if the current solar lull is the beginning of a prolonged quiet, the scientists say, the star's effects on climate will pale in contrast with the influence of human-made greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (CO2).

"I think you have to bear in mind that the CO2 is a good 50 to 60 percent higher than normal, whereas the decline in solar output is a few hundredths of one percent down," Lockwood said. "I think that helps keep it in perspective."

BUT: "Don't Blame Sun for Global Warming, Study Says."

Local Cooling

For hundreds of years scientists have used the number of observable sunspots to trace the sun's roughly 11-year cycles of activity.

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Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#14  Any idiot that blabs about CO2 being the cause of global warming and doesn't know about wavelength saturation needs to be shot. Their stupidity is a danger to others.
Posted by: DarthVader   2009-05-05 23:40  

#13  CO2 is only a minor greenhouse gas. Water vapor is much more of a greenhouse gas - there is a lot more of it.
Of course, since most of the water vapor comes from the sea, man has very little influence over it. Thus Al Gore et al can't make money from it.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2009-05-05 22:41  

#12  CO2 in the atmosphere only lasts around 8 years so it's cannot be rising longer-term due to man.

CO2 is basically rising due to changes in the seas ability to dissolve it.

When the sea absorbs more CO2 it will fall (with a big lag).

Posted by: Bright Pebbles the flatulent   2009-05-05 20:57  

#11  The Gore Effect™ is strong indeed
Posted by: Frank G   2009-05-05 20:38  

#10  I blame Al Gore.
Posted by: James   2009-05-05 20:34  

#9  You're all wrong > the SUN/SOL is waiting for "the MAHDI" to fight COLONEL "CHINA" GORDON [Charles Heston] at KHARTOUM - AGAIN!

D *** Ng IT, nice try, but no MADONNA = OSAMA-IAN WHITNEY HUSTON, 1960's = 1980's MTV videos.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-05-05 19:40  

#8  CO2 is a Greenhouse Gas!
It causes the Greenhouse Effect! You know how a greenhouse works? It traps heat! Heat ... from ... the... erm... *blink*

Posted by: eLarson   2009-05-05 19:27  

#7  GB, your approach has real promise. I'm beginning to consider other examples I might use ...
Posted by: Steve White   2009-05-05 18:28  

#6  He and other researchers are therefore engaged in what they call "preemptive denial" of a solar minimum leading to global cooling.

We've got to do something to save our phoney-baloney jobs!
Posted by: xbalanke   2009-05-05 18:08  

#5  the star's effects on climate will pale in contrast with the influence of human-made greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (CO2).

So lets see, the big orange ball that heats our planet has less effect on its temperature than does a gas that is less than 1% of its total atmosphere. How stupid is this guy?

And yes, until China, India, Brazil, Indonesia and several other countries get a handle on their CO2 output, whatever we do is not going to matter.
Posted by: remoteman   2009-05-05 17:57  

#4  I always agree with the morons. I tell them how concerned I am that the Polar Bears can longer hunt Penguins because the ice pack melted.

Many have told me they never realized it was that bad.

Then I tell them how sad that the Glaciers that used to cover the Sierra Nevada Mountains are gone and have left gaping holes like Yosemite Vally.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2009-05-05 16:59  

#3  PS. When I meet one of these global warming yahoos, I ask them what kind of car they drive (foreign), what clothes they wear, shoes, TVs, etc. Then I tell them to decrease CO2 production stop buying shit from overseas. Not only is the product made less energy efficiently, but the increase in the standard of living in the producing country is responsible for 80% of new CO2 production.
Posted by: ed   2009-05-05 16:36  

#2  It doesn't matter what the US or EU does concerning CO2. Increases by China and India alone will swamp any reductions. Yet the earth is getting cooler.
Posted by: ed   2009-05-05 16:32  

#1  The timing on this should be interesting. The earth has been getting cooler for 10 years now. Meanwhile, Bammo and his minions are racing to regulate CO2. Assuming they manage to impoverish us all and that the earth continues cooling, they will naturally take credit. If anyone tries to scale back on CO2 controls after that, the media will scream dire warnings of the return of global warming.

On the other hand, every year the earth continues to cool it gets harder to pass CO2 regulation. If we can hold out until 2010, this monstrous hoax that is Global Warming may just die in its sleep.
Posted by: Iblis   2009-05-05 16:20  

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