You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Home Front Economy
Some see splitting state as solution
2009-02-28
While most Californians lament that the state is broke and many criticize a broken system, an organization formed primarily by agricultural interests seeks to break up the state. Citizens for Saving California Farming Industries (CSCFI) have proposed dividing California into a primarily coastal state and a primarily inland state.

The eastern portion would include 45 counties, including San Diego and Orange, while the western portion would cover 13 counties between the Los Angeles basin and the Bay Area.

"We'll be able to manage what kind of revenue we're getting," said CSCFI chief executive officer and president Bill Maze.

Maze, who lives in Visalia, has seen the impact of the state's problems both from county and state government positions. He was in the California State Assembly from 2002 to 2008 and spent the previous 10 years on the Tulare County Board of Supervisors. "They [the state] hold local government -- cities, counties, and other special districts -- hostage," he said.

Maze saw a polarization of political parties while in the state legislature and also saw the results of a redistricting process intended to preserve incumbents rather than to represent citizens.

His Assembly district was the largest geographic state Assembly, House of Representatives, or House of Delegates district in the continental United States. It covered 33,000 square miles including Highway 99 through the San Joaquin Valley, Twenty-Nine Palms and part of Lake Havasu and reached both the Nevada and Arizona state borders.

The passage of Proposition 11 in last November's election may mitigate some of the gerrymandering of legislative districts, but Maze feels that the political process is still present. "We've all had these little 'plans' to fix how we design the districts," he said. "All of them still have political input into them."

Those who represent large geographical districts often complain not only about the relative lack of political power compared to urban legislators but also about their inability to represent a variety of constituencies. The diverse state constituency is seen as a need for two separate states.

"To me the final straw that broke the camel's back was the passage of Proposition 2," Maze said.

Prop. 2 addressed the housing conditions of poultry. Animal rights activists saw Prop. 2 as improving the welfare of agricultural birds while farmers doubt they can remain economically competitive with imported egg production. "They're going to put them out of business in California and we will lose tens and tens of thousands of jobs," Maze said.

Although Prop. 2 passed on a statewide basis, it was rejected in 41 of California's 58 counties. "You have these kind of voting numbers of basically agriculturally uneducated city dwellers," Maze said. "That's the way we see this thing."

The split would likely make the eastern portion of California a politically conservative state while making the coastal area a liberal state. The general conservative politics of San Diego and Orange counties, along with strong agricultural economies, led to the placement of those coastal counties into the eastern state. "It's all the agricultural base of it as well as what has been more rational commonsense thinking," Maze said.

Ironically, the type of conservative politics in the two states could be different.

While urban conservatives often focus on social issues, rural conservatives place more emphasis on local government, and water issues are also more important in the decisions of rural voters and legislators. While that would give the western remnant an agricultural college, Yolo County and the University of California Davis would be part of the eastern state, as would Fresno State University, University of California Merced, Cal Poly Pomona, and University of California Riverside.

"We can be very self-sustaining, self-supporting," Maze said.

Maze also noted that the retention of the Port of San Diego, as well as river-accessible ports in Stockton and Sacramento, would allow for commercial transportation to the mostly inland state.

The deficit of the Los Angeles basin and the Bay Area wouldn't be the problem of the eastern state. "They're getting the lion's share of the state budget as well as having almost exclusive control of what the outcomes are," Maze said.

The current population of what would be the coastal state is approximately 18.4 million while the population of the 45 counties slated for the primarily inland state totals approximately 19.6 million.

Maze isn't averse to a unicameral legislature for the new state (currently Nebraska is the only state with only one legislative chamber) and feels that a part-time legislature is a possibility in the eastern state. "We ought to be thinking about how we change the whole legislature up there," he said.

The proposed new state does not yet have a specific name, although Grand California has been mentioned as well as East California.

CSCFI had a booth at a farm show in Tulare in February and between 5,000 and 6,000 people dropped by on February 10.

Maze noted that the response in the San Joaquin Valley is approximately 95 percent supportive.

CSCFI will utilize an initiative ballot measure to divide the state. "You think this legislature in California is going to get anything done?" Maze said. "This will be by the initiative process."

The initiative, if sufficient petition signatures are collected, will likely be on the 2012 ballot. "It takes a long process here," Maze said.

The actual petition process timeline could place the initiative on a 2010 ballot, but CSCFI will hold seminars and other educational forums throughout 2009.

Individuals will be identified to be county coordinators in each county; at this time no San Diego County or Riverside County coordinator has been identified. The outreach will extend to other business groups in addition to the agricultural origin.

"People can really think about it," Maze said. "Let's really create some change to this state."
Posted by:Fred

#9  Just watching the fight over water rights would be down right entertaining.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-02-28 22:25  

#8  Split it int three states if not four. Then, two of them, Bay Area and LA, would have to start housing all the criminals they produce instead of exporting them to civilized areas.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2009-02-28 19:45  

#7  The usual proposal is Northern California wants the counties north of Bakersfield and Southern California wants the counties south of Bakersfield. Nobody seems to want Bakersfield.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2009-02-28 19:05  

#6  I'm in "eastern California" and I'd love to see this happen, but it never will. Just for starters, the sate is too incompetent to even go through the process of splitting itself. It's not even comptetent enough to carry out sentences on its death row inmates. An inmate on death row has far greater odds of dying from old age, than from execution. Perhaps when the state finally implodes into bankruptcy, something can happen. There's gotta be a better name than "Eastern California", though. Perhaps "Free California" would be better.
Posted by: AuburnTom   2009-02-28 18:29  

#5  Great....give 'em two more Senators as wonderful as Boxer and Feinstein so the rest of the country can give them even more money.

I don't think so, guys.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2009-02-28 14:03  

#4  This isn't new: there have been a couple dozen attempts to split Laficornia according to Wiki.
Posted by: Steve White   2009-02-28 11:57  

#3  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Jefferson
Posted by: Penguin   2009-02-28 11:48  

#2  Western Californistan, more commonly referred to as the Caza Strip. Make it so!
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-02-28 11:42  

#1  The "Western State" folks will go ape-sh*t because a huge chunk of California's tax revenue (and food and water) (and socioeconomic victims 'we need to help' - in words only) comes from the "Eastern State". The Pacific Coastal Commission would be a good first place to look to find their new bureaucracy.

Plus, they won't be able to legislate how the "Easterners" can do business anymore.

The "Westerners" could locate their new capital to Richmond and empathize with the folks there.


This I'm sure is not going to happen, but it's actually not the absolute worst idea I've heard to date.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2009-02-28 11:36  

00:00