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Hillary Clinton 'panders' to China as dissidents are silenced
2009-02-22
Follow-up.
STATE security agents put dozens of dissidents under virtual house arrest yesterday to silence support for Charter 08 -- a new manifesto for Chinese democracy -- as Hillary Clinton made her first visit to Beijing as US secretary of state.
Condi Rice would have pointed that fact out in her presser.
The crackdown emerged as Amnesty International condemned Clinton for saying that human rights could not interfere with talks on the financial crisis, global warming and North Korea.
Hillary was all concerned about human rights in China when George Bush was president. Now that Bambi is in charge her concerns have, well, disappeared.
As foreign minister Yang Jiechi welcomed her with a broad smile, he observed that it was "a bit chilly" in Beijing but promised Clinton she would see "the biggest number of smiling faces". Yang told the British press last year that Chinese police would "offer a cup of tea" to any protesters at the Beijing Olympics, yet dozens of Chinese were jailed for trying to protest.

Clinton told a joint news conference that the two would have "frank discussions" on human rights, Tibet, religious freedom and freedom of expression. She thanked China for continuing to invest in US government debt. Yang responded that China would allocate its $20 trillion of foreign currency reserves as it saw fit.

Outside in the snow, security agents in Beijing surrounded the homes of writers and thinkers behind Charter 08, the boldest public petition for Chinese freedom in 20 years. Some contacted reporters by text message to say they could not go out.

Amnesty International said Clinton had sent the wrong signal to the Chinese regime because the US was one of the few countries strong enough to stand up to China on human rights. "Half a million people are currently in labour camps," it said in a statement. "Women face forced abortion and sterili-sation as part of China's enforcement of its one-child policy."
George Bush looking better to you now?
Human Rights Watch said Clinton's strategy seemed to play into the hands of the Chinese government by "segregating human rights issues into a deadend dialogue of the deaf".
Why would Hillary Clinton give a fig about ordinary people?
The criticism gave Clinton a rough ride on her first excursion abroad to present the new face of American foreign policy under President Barack Obama. Up to her arrival in China, the secretary of state had displayed a virtuoso command of her dual roles as icy diplomat and global celebrity.
Only because he hadn't been asked to do anything ...
In the first role, she issued a warning to North Korea to cease its warlike threats in language no cold warrior could have faulted. In the second, she charmed young audiences in Seoul, Tokyo and Jakarta with her political savvy and common-sense talk about how women everywhere strive to balance work and family.

In China, however, a government nervous of the Obama administration's worldwide approval ratings did not offer its distinguished visitor a chance to shine. Clinton's schedule included the standard stiff poses with Chinese leaders and a visit to a power plant, and she was due to head home today.
And the Chinese gummint will relax, knowing that they have the Hildebeast and Bambi in their pockets for the next four years ...
Posted by:Steve White

#14  Q: What's the difference between the ChiComs and Obama?
A: The ChiComs believe in capitalism.
Posted by: Deadeye Hupinemble6255   2009-02-22 15:07  

#13  Methinks A. Christian doth protest too much.
Posted by: WolfDog   2009-02-22 12:54  

#12  off the immediate subject a little bit, i lived in Taiwan when China was missile testing in the Taiwan Strait. It was not the most comfy feeling in the world. China's "our way or the highway" mentality towards Taiwan and Tibet is digusting. And unfortunately, weve gotten snared in China's strongarm policies as now they hold some of our debt.
Clinton did us no favors by kowtowing, shes lost respect and lost us our intestinal fortitude. Amnesty is doing the right thing, and Clinton is doing the wrong thing on our behalf. Boo, Clinton, you lost me. BTW, I say we stop buying products from China and let them eat it big. If the whole economy falls apart, so be it, at least then we'd be at a clean ground zero and can rebuild stronger next time around. As long as we are ensnared economically with China, were weaker not stronger.
Posted by: Haveanoodle55   2009-02-22 12:40  

#11  I've devoted my life to working with the victims of political oppression ...

Okay, I'm always willing to learn more. I certainly respect those who genuinely have worked to relieve oppression.

So, Mr/Ms 'A Christian', tell us what you've been doing. I'd like to hear it.
Posted by: Steve White   2009-02-22 11:56  

#10  I've devoted my life to working with the victims of political oppression and you clowns are never the people out there in the trenches dealing with the reality of the suffering.

"Never" is a very long time my friend. Many here have spent a day or two "in the trenches" and the De Opresso Libre mode Mr. Christian. You might wish to consider getting to know your audience prior to launching into the Attorney General Eric Holder, "you're all a bunch of cowards" mode.


Posted by: Besoeker   2009-02-22 11:45  

#9  A holier-than-thou attitude is not a sign of a true Christian.
Posted by: Darrell   2009-02-22 11:43  

#8  Never mind that the panties on the head was the result of a few idiots and not standard procedure. Never mind that the abuses were already being fully investigated even before the media saw it as a means of beating a dead horse.

Never mind that there are no abuses in Gitmo - outside of the vivid imagination of human ABUSE advocates like Human Rights Watch and AmNasy International.

Never mind the _real_ abuse of the rape squads,rape rooms, industrial shredders of Saddam's Iraq.

Or the hanging of homosexuals in Iran.

Or the execution (that would be killing as in dead) of political prisoners in China.

Or the 'real' torture chamber of Al-Q recently found in Iraq - which the media would never even mention because it would contrast with their 18-month long 24x7 beading of the Abu Grabe.

Or the schoolgirls who are murdered and schools bombed by the Taliban.

Or the Israeli children who are deliberatly targetted and murdered by the government of Gaza (that would be Hamass and its cronies).

and you clowns are never the people out there in the trenches dealing with the reality of the suffering.

No - those 'clowns' are the ones in the trenches risking their very lives to end the suffering and the abuse and the murder by stopping the abuse at the source. In Afghanistan and Iraq. These are the 'clown' Israeli solders and medical personal who extend medical care even to those who would like nothing better than to see them, and their children killed dead.

Helping those in need and who are abused is a good thing (and I'll commend you for that!) - stopping the abuse and killing the abuser so that the abused won't need continual help is better. Of course the UN and most of the left simply wouldn't want that - it would remove a means of 'feeling good' about helping the abused.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2009-02-22 11:43  

#7  Ima kick A Christian in the head to make him happy.
Posted by: Shipman   2009-02-22 11:19  

#6  none of you keyboard cowboys actually feel a damned thing for the suffering of this world unless it serves your tribal interests to care. It is all about you, your side, your blog and your self-righteous sense of importance.
I've devoted my life to working with the victims of political oppression and you clowns are never the people out there in the trenches dealing with the reality of the suffering.


he said, seated at his comfy keyboard. What a twat
Posted by: Frank G   2009-02-22 11:14  

#5  and you clowns are never the people out there in the trenches dealing with the reality of the suffering.

Posted by: A Christian 2009-02-22 09:50

If you take a mirror you probably can see a beam in your own eye*wink*. Many here including my soldier son and I sent countless thousands of goods to relieve the suffering of the vary people you talk about.
Posted by: Albemarle Flusing3122   2009-02-22 10:54  

#4  Hillary is shrewd enough to know that we need China to buy our debt.
Posted by: Formerly Dan   2009-02-22 10:40  

#3  but they rationalize abuses when Americans commit abuses in Iraq and at Guantanmo--because none of you keyboard cowboys actually feel a damned thing for the suffering of this world unless it serves your tribal interests to care.Posted by: A Christian 2009-02-22 09:50

Snicker. Yes, Please ignore the 60 million muslims that Republicans freed in the last 8 years because panties on the head is such an abuse!
Posted by: Thruque Speaking for Boskone5570   2009-02-22 10:37  

#2  Oh, please, Republicans excoriated the naivete of Jimmy Carter for pressing other states on human rights. This post is pure partisan hackery which is why I can't stand partisans--period. The putrified intellectual inconsistency on both sides disgusts every decent person I know.

Your kind are a pox on American politics as his Hillary, George Bush, Barrack and every other partisan with a blog. You don't care about victims of rights abuses, you just hate your political opponents as much as they despise you. Liberal phonies rail against abuses in Iraq but look the other way when it comes to Fidel Castro. Bonehead conservatives rail against rights abuses in China when there is a Democratic president, but they rationalize abuses when Americans commit abuses in Iraq and at Guantanmo--because none of you keyboard cowboys actually feel a damned thing for the suffering of this world unless it serves your tribal interests to care. It is all about you, your side, your blog and your self-righteous sense of importance.

I've devoted my life to working with the victims of political oppression and you clowns are never the people out there in the trenches dealing with the reality of the suffering.

Posted by: A Christian   2009-02-22 09:50  

#1  See Spengler's article, posted to 'Burg yesterday
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-02-22 09:21  

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