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| German-Afghan gets life for 'honour killing' - Family screams in outrage |
| 2009-02-13 |
| A German-Afghan man was sentenced to life in prison for the “honour killing” of his sister on Friday, creating mayhem in the court room as family members screamed, assaulted journalists and attempted suicide. The 24-year-old Ahmad-Sobair O. was convicted of murdering his 16-year-old sister Morsal O. on May 15, 2008 because she had turned away from her family. The girl died after suffering 23 stab wounds in a Sankt Georg district parking lot in Hamburg. Both siblings, who immigrated to Germany 13 years ago, have German citizenship. “He killed out of pure intolerance,” Hamburg Judge Wolfgang Backen said while reading the verdict, adding that the murder was “treacherous” and a premeditated “bloodbath” after all other attempts to “discipline” his sister had failed. His verdict sparked dramatic scenes in the court room as Ahmad Sobair O.’s family and friends wailed and hit the security glass behind which he was sitting. The accused himself began screaming: “You son of a whore! What is this, honour? I know no honour!” He also yelled that had the trial taken place in Kabul, Afghanistan, he would have already been released long ago. The murderer's mother then tried to throw herself out of a courtroom window, but was restrained by family members. Relatives of the accused also assaulted and threatened a journalist in the room. According to Backer, the late Morsal O. had been victim to “many years of martyrdom” in the form of threats and assault from her brother. Before she was murdered, Morsal O. had been seen by emergency youth services on several occasions, suffering from pressures by her family, which did not approve of her Western lifestyle. After the verdict, her parents sharply criticised the judge, saying the girl bore some of the guilt for her own murder. Backer said her parents had made their son into the “executioner” of their “parenting methods.” Ahmad-Sobair O. has already been prosecuted for assaulting her and others. He was sentenced in March to one year and five months without possibility of probation on an assault charge. He had requested his March sentence be deferred, but was notified in writing - a day before the stabbing - that the request had been rejected. A series of six honour killings - including the shooting at a bus stop of 23-year-old Turkish woman Hatun Sürücü in Berlin - shook Germany in 2005. Sürücü's youngest brother, Ayhan Sürücü, later confessed to killing her because his family did not approve of her lifestyle. According to news agency DPA, some 50 women have been the victim of honour killings in Germany over the last decade. |
| Posted by:mrp |
| #13 Spot on Deadeye. |
| Posted by: Hellfish 2009-02-13 21:12 |
| #12 FYI there's some footage of this on youtube. Search for "Morsal", "Obeidi", "Ehrenmord" (= honor killing). The voice over is in German but its self-explanatory. As for Redneck Jim's question, the murderer is referred to as "Deutsch-Afghane", which is preposterous, as he murdered his sister precisely because she wanted to assimilate. This hostility and disrespect shown by Afghans of all people is a fruit of western restraint and kindness after 911. The "War in Afghanistan" should have been a "War on Afghanistan", and liberation should have consisted of imposing western civilization on the Afghans, at gunpoint, without compromises, not of empty rituals involving fingers dyed purple. Sorry for that rant, but that story really has me livid :(. |
| Posted by: Deadeye Pheregum9683 2009-02-13 20:03 |
| #11 I wonder, do they call themselves "Afro Germans" over there? |
| Posted by: Rednek Jim 2009-02-13 19:20 |
| #10 I think the Chinese approach would have been better. This is probably the reason the Chinese Muslim community abuts Pakistan, but you don't hear of honor killings in China. The death penalty and the persecution of the remaining family members can be a serious deterrent. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2009-02-13 15:58 |
| #9 I think the Chinese approach would have been better. Line up the guy in front of a firing squad, shoot him, haul the family in front of a magistrate where they have to pay for the cost of the bullet and other costs associated with the firing squad, and for raising a child who turned out to be such a bloody waste as to need a .308 lobotomy. |
| Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-02-13 15:32 |
| #8 And in more European Muslim male "honor" news... A Pakistani man has been sentenced to 20 years in prison by a French court for setting fire to an ex-girlfriend who had refused to marry him. Amer Mushtaq Butt doused the woman with petrol and set her alight as she was leaving her home in a Paris suburb. Chahrazad Belayni, a 21-year-old Moroccan-born woman, suffered third-degree burns to 60% of her body. The case has highlighted violence against women in poor urban communities with large Muslim populations. Ms Belayni broke down in tears after the sentence was announced in court late on Thursday. "It sets a good example. For women who are victims of violence, I think 20 years is a good step," she said. Prosecutor Camille Palluel said Butt had meticulously planned his attack "to end the life" of his former girlfriend in an attempt "to restore his honour". Butt set fire to Ms Belayni in the street in the impoverished Paris suburb of Neuilly-sur-Marne in 2005 after she ended their relationship. She told the court how she threw herself to the ground and tried to extinguish the flames. She fell into a coma after the attack and has since undergone several operations. Butt fled France for Pakistan after the attack but later returned to hand himself in. He pleaded guilty at his three-day trial, claiming it was a crime of passion. So long, Mr. Buttfuck... |
| Posted by: tu3031 2009-02-13 15:32 |
| #7 Barbarian meets civilization. Justice triumpts. End of story. |
| Posted by: Richard of Oregon 2009-02-13 15:27 |
| #6 I keep saying the way to stop this cold is to turn it around, and publicly shame families that engage in it. Plastering pictures of these people all over Germany might do it. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2009-02-13 15:18 |
| #5 as family members screamed, assaulted journalists and attempted suicide. Effing drama queens... Ahmad, you're not in Afghanistan anymore. ZF, you know, I think you've isolated the problem. I think ahmad should have stayed in afghanistan, and I think this should apply to 95% of the muslims living in Europe (they, or their predecessors). |
| Posted by: anonymous5089 2009-02-13 15:17 |
| #4 Sometimes, things have to get worse before they get better. What incidents like this do is cause Muslim women who want to assimilate and don't want to be killed by their families to completely dissociate themselves from both their kin and the Muslim community. I don't see any downside to the complete assimilation of foreign women into the German community. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2009-02-13 15:17 |
| #3 I keep saying the way to stop this cold is to turn it around, and publicly shame families that engage in it. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2009-02-13 15:15 |
| #2 He also yelled that had the trial taken place in Kabul, Afghanistan, he would have already been released long ago. Ahmad, you're not in Afghanistan anymore. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2009-02-13 15:13 |
| #1 The family {spit} should join him in jail. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles the flatulent 2009-02-13 15:11 |