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Home Front: Politix
Military to Pledge Oath To Obama?? HOAX
2009-01-31
Conservative News and Reporting
"News for the Rest of Us"
Michele Chang

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with orders that the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the Pentagon, including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration may break with a centuries-old tradition.

A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.

"The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself." the spokesman said, "At no time in American history, not even in the Civil War, did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always been to the Constitution."

The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops from Iraq. But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes too far.

"Technically, we can't talk about it before it becomes official policy." the spokesman continued. "However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass."

Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale for the change was made more clear.

"The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib."

"We expect a lot of flak over this," the classified memo continues. "But those that would be most against it are those looking either for attention or control."

The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely that the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to dampen any potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be slight. The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the oath to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.
This is total crap. Having some Turner Diary wet dream, Michele?
Completely unconfirmed. The spokesman didn't say any of this. Gibbs didn't say any of this. And there is no memo.
Posted by:Besoeker

#30  And smart, too!

TW, you've got it all. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2009-01-31 21:18  

#29  Darling Barbara, always so sweet. :-) Except when she's not, when I try to be well behind instead of in front of her.
Posted by: trailing wife    2009-01-31 20:28  

#28  "The silly man ignores all evidence of the last two centuries that his Allah favours our cause, not his."

Yee-ouch, tw.

That's gonna leave a mark on the troll's ass.

When I grow up, I wanna be just like you. :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2009-01-31 14:43  

#27  See the shallowness and superficiality of Mr. Midoman's thoughts, though he boasted last night of speaking the three languages of his native Barbary Coast (Arabic, Berber, and French) plus English. He thinks that what we ultimately offer to him are the twin evils of women who dress as they choose, and food different than that his mother makes... and that he is superior because he has learnt to access the internet that we invented and that is available to him because some of us wish to use it while in his part of the world. But he need not, does he not wish it, yet believes that because we make it available to all, therefore he must and will conquer us.

The silly man ignores all evidence of the last two centiries that his Allah favours our cause, not his.
Posted by: trailing wife    2009-01-31 14:36  

#26  and football! and more whiskey! and some tequila too! After that, everyone looks sexy(!)
Posted by: Frank G   2009-01-31 14:31  

#25  your way of life with your burgers and naked women!

I'm a little late to the game here and missed all the trollish goodness, but if it involves burgers and naked women, I'm in. Democracy! Whiskey! Sexy!
Posted by: SteveS   2009-01-31 14:02  

#24  I to am want naked burgers. Pls forward soon.

Also: lol.

Also: HalfEmpty is make suspend your exchange account for 48 hours for forwarding this messery.
Posted by: .5MT   2009-01-31 13:51  

#23  maybe you should learn too spell iraq before running off at the mouth

I believe that's the French spelling of Iraq. One of our French posters can correct me if I'm wrong.

And your comment is funny, considering how you habitually spell 'to' as 'too'.
Posted by: Pappy   2009-01-31 13:27  

#22  As Mr. Lotp notes, the oath to defend the Constitution is literally written in stone, at West Point and elsewhere.
Posted by: lotp   2009-01-31 12:38  

#21  maybe you should learn too spell iraq before running off at the mouth
Posted by: rabid whitetail   2009-01-31 12:37  

#20  troll alert - don't bother throwing pearls before swine.

We live in a federalist republic, not a democracy. At least read our constitution prior to spouting off stupidities. Idiot troll.

By the way, this is total b.s. All our top brass would resign and there would be a revolt if this crap were true.
Posted by: Herman Flineck aka Broadhead6   2009-01-31 12:03  

#19  "I just want to understand how you guys from USA ... think"

That's pretty hard for most people who don't live here, and grew up believing that their government/religion knows best and should be in charge of everything.

Most of us don't think like that at all. Although the PC Lefties are trying their best, most of us still think free speech means free speech, not "free unless it hurts somebody's feelings." We also believe everybody in the world should have as much freedom and liberty as we do, because we believe that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are natural - not government-given - rights.

But a lot of us are beginning to not be concerned so much about the rest of the world being free, since so much of the rest of the world doesn't seem to care if they're free. We've already got too many people in this country who think the government is supposed to take care of their every need, instead of working to take care of themselves.

When you surrender the care of yourself and your family to the government, you sell yourself into slavery to the government. Most of us aren't interested in being slaves - but it appears to us most of the rest of the world doesn't care if they are.

Does that help any?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2009-01-31 11:13  

#18  LOL - I perceive something right now
Posted by: Frank G   2009-01-31 11:01  

#17  Sorry for all the bad words!

I just want to understand how you guys from USA fonction and think. You have to make a qualitative leap in your perception of the World!
Posted by: Midoman   2009-01-31 10:45  

#16  ..but to impose your way of life with your burgers and naked women! arrrrgh man!

You going to run for mayor of New York?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-01-31 10:38  

#15  Ah, so they're incapable of democracy, eh?

What is democracy? Who rules USA? Isn't it your multinational companies and military system?

How come a great country such USA elect a dump president like GW.Bush? Where is democracy in it?
Posted by: Midoman   2009-01-31 10:31  

#14  I would understand if you invaded Irak for a kind of crusade war or christian agenda; but to impose your way of life with your burgers and naked women! arrrrgh man! You should invade Rwanda! they need burgers there!
Posted by: Midoman   2009-01-31 10:22  

#13  Muslims have their own rules and way of life based on tribes and religion.

Ah, so they're incapable of democracy, eh?
Posted by: Steve White   2009-01-31 10:21  

#12  Is it normal that USA impose its way of life to bedouins by invading and killing people?

No different than the Arabs streaming out of their part of the world conquering the remnants of the Roman and Sassanid Empire and imposing their way of life on people from the Ebro to the Indus. It all depends upon who's ox is getting gored, isn't it.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-01-31 10:14  

#11  
"Some mess, real free elections [not found in the vast majority of muslim countries] and economy that is growing along with business and industry"

What free elections?
Muslims have their own rules and way of life based on tribes and religion. Is it normal that USA impose its way of life to bedouins by invading and killing people? I don't understand you people from behind Atlantic ocean!
Posted by: Midoman   2009-01-31 10:02  

#10  We already cleaned house in Iraq - Saddam is gone. Iraqi's don't have to worry about his death squads, torture chambers, rape squads, industrial shredders, or rape rooms again.

To prosecute someone they must have done something wrong or illegal - and despite what the MSM and you on the moonbat left say what Bush did wasn't _wrong_ either legally or morally. Nor did he lie. Why do you think Queen Nancy didn't impeach? Because she knew that an impeachment would reveal their lies.

Now if we were to prosecute your U.N. officals (starting with Koffi Annan) that would be a start. We can start with Oil for Palaces (Iraq) and then move on to Nookie for Food (Congo)
Posted by: CrazyFool   2009-01-31 09:59  

#9  :) How are you going to clean the mess you generated in Irak?

Some mess, real free elections [not found in the vast majority of muslim countries] and economy that is growing along with business and industry. How many people in this world want that kind of mess! As for the death rates due to violence, it far less than Chicago.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-01-31 09:51  

#8  The irony of this being a hoax will probably be utterly missed by many in the administration and media, who will be utterly puzzled, and ask themselves:

"So what is wrong with making the military swear a loyalty oath to Obama? 'They're *ours* now.'(*)"

(*) This was the infamous statement heard at the Bill Clinton inauguration, when there was an overflight of USAF fighter aircraft. One prominent leftist sneered, expressing his long held hatred of the US military, for which he was chided by another prominent leftist, who said, "No, no. They're *ours* now!"
Posted by: Anonymoose   2009-01-31 09:36  

#7  Soldiers acting like in Abu ghraib are animals!

News Alert Dude, their fellow soldiers thought the very same thing as they court martialed their asses and sent them to confinement for a very long time. It wasn't the UN or any international court, or a special prosecutor who rendered justice, it was their peers. Unlike 95% of these of this planets human institutions, the American military has very good record in cleaning its own house. It's one of the reason that unlike nearly any other army in history, the little children, regardless of color, race, or creed do not run away from them, but seek them out as protectors.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-01-31 09:24  

#6  Hail Obama!
Good for your asses! Soldiers acting like in Abu Ghraib are animals! Shame on your military system!
Posted by: Midoman   2009-01-31 08:41  

#5  I modified the title to alert people, since this is flying around the blogosphere.

The hoax is credible to many based on a deep distrust of Obama's commitment to our way of life and Constitution. But remember the story about the boy who cried 'Wolf!!'. Too many of these hoaxes and people will ignore any real attacks on our basic liberties and legal mechanisms.

We need to be vigilant but also to check out claims carefully.
Posted by: lotp   2009-01-31 08:33  

#4  Mods, this is indeed a hoax. Please pull the thread.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-01-31 07:16  

#3  If that is true, notivce the if I don't like that at all. First thing Hitler did when Hindeburg died was to make the military pledge an oath of loyalty to him. To him and nothing else.
This was important because in Germany an oath was something that you carried to the last consequences (a trait of character Nietzche had mentionned several decades before).
Posted by: JFM   2009-01-31 03:49  

#2  Blackfive has already called bullshit on this, based on some of his (as of now) off the record contacts. So as far as I'm concerned, that means it's well and truly bullshit.

Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo)   2009-01-31 03:19  

#1  Bullshit.
Posted by: mojo   2009-01-31 00:31  

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