You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Home Front: WoT
Amid Death-Penalty Doubts, 9/11 Suspects Withdraw Offer to Confess
2008-12-10
Five of the men accused of planning the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks said Monday that they wanted to plead guilty to murder and war crimes but withdrew the offer when a military judge raised questions about whether it would prevent them from fulfilling their desire to receive the death penalty. "Are you saying if we plead guilty we will not be able to be sentenced to death?" Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed operational mastermind of the attacks, asked at a pretrial hearing here.

The seesaw proceedings Monday raised and then postponed the prospect of a conviction in a case that has become the centerpiece of the system of military justice created by the Bush administration. A conviction would have capped a seven-year quest for justice after the 2001 attacks, but the delay in entering pleas will probably extend the process beyond the end of the Bush presidency.

The willingness of the defendants to "announce our confessions and plea in full," according to a document they sent to the judge in the case, Army Col. Stephen Henley, potentially bestows some hard decisions on the incoming administration. President-elect Barack Obama has vowed to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility, but he has not indicated whether he will retain the military commissions that may be close to securing the death penalty for suspects in the worst terrorist attacks in U.S. history.

If the judge ultimately accepts guilty pleas, the ability of the Obama administration to transfer the case to federal court -- a desire expressed by some Obama advisers -- might be constrained, said Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union.
the new administration may have to oversee an execution resulting from a process that many Obama supporters and legal advisers regard as deeply flawed.
That could mean the new administration may have to oversee an execution resulting from a process that many Obama supporters and legal advisers regard as deeply flawed.

A guilty plea, however, could shield the Obama administration from what some legal experts view as potentially hazardous proceedings in federal court, where evidence obtained by torture or coercive interrogation would not be admitted. CIA Director Michael V. Hayden has acknowledged that Mohammed was subjected to waterboarding, an interrogation technique in which a prisoner is restrained as water is poured over his mouth, causing a drowning sensation.

Although legal analysts say Mohammed and his co-conspirators would probably be convicted of terrorist offenses, the ability to obtain a capital conviction may have been undermined by the use of practices that have been criticized as torture. "It is absurd to accept a guilty plea from people who were tortured and waterboarded," said Romero, who is observing the proceedings. He said in an interview that the Obama administration should clearly signal that it intends to abolish the military commissions as well as the detention system, so the judge and other Pentagon officials will not move forward with the proceeding. The Obama team declined to comment Monday.

Offering to plead guilty along with Mohammed were Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawsawi, Tawfiq bin Attash and Ammar al-Baluchi, also known as Ali Abdul Aziz Ali. Baluchi is a nephew of Mohammed.

"Our success is the greatest praise of the Lord," Mohammed and the four others wrote of the attacks in a document they sent to Henley last month.

Binalshibh and Hawsawi have not yet been judged competent to represent themselves, and Mohammed and the two others said they would defer a decision on a guilty plea until all five could act together. But the motivation behind withdrawing the plea offer appears to be the prospect of execution, lawyers here said. Mohammed has expressed a desire to die as a martyr, yet Henley questioned whether a death sentence is permissible without a verdict by a military jury.

The Pentagon, in announcing formal charges against the five in May, said each was accused of "conspiracy, murder in violation of the law of war, attacking civilians, attacking civilian objects, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, destruction of property in violation of the law of war, terrorism and providing material support for terrorism."

"We all five have reached an agreement to request from the commission an immediate hearing session in order to announce our confessions," the defendants said in their letter, parts of which Henley read aloud Monday. They said they were not under "any kind of pressure, threat, intimidations or promise from any party."
Posted by:Fred

#14  Ms Stewart writes like a teenage girl, all exclamation points and emotions -- appropriate to her maturity.

As for the 9/11 planners, let them rot in maximum security solitary confinement for the rest of their very long lives: alone, unloved, unremembered. And give them nothing but the softest core Romance novels to read, so they can feel it all more acutely.
Posted by: trailing wife   2008-12-10 22:16  

#13  Remember: you're not supposed to advocate the killing of American citizens on Rantburg. Not even outright traitors like Lynne Stewart.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800   2008-12-10 21:49  

#12  The thing that would worry me most about anything besides a prompt application of the death penalty is that you know someone's going to take hostages to trade for them and now we have a President Olmert of our very own.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2008-12-10 19:41  

#11  Where in the damn hell does she get who money"?
Posted by: .5MT   2008-12-10 19:33  

#10  F-off Lynn.

Die Slow,

Hellfish
Posted by: Hellfish   2008-12-10 18:05  

#9  Ah, yes. Our girl Lynnie. Who's supposed to be in jail, but...

November 2008

It’s over 6 months ago that I last wrote this column but I have managed to keep busy and to have a long lazy summer in the country...always with the thought in the back of my mind (and Heart) is today the Day, the Court will decide ? What’s at stake is whether they will give me a new trial based on the numerous and serious constitutional infractions that are present in the case or (worst case scenario) that the government will prevail and Judge Koeltl will re-sentence me to greater than the 28 months. It is also possible that they will affirm and I will start to pack my suitcase for surrender at a federal “institution” . However, that said, it is not unusual that the Court takes an extraordinarily long time to decide a difficult case. So we wait for the phone call and meanwhile, I stay busy.

There certainly are enough politics that need us!! Over the past months, I have attended and been keynote speaker at the Radford Virginia Conference, where we drafted and voted affirmatively on a new Declaration of Independence. In Cleveland, the formation of the National Assembly to End the War in Iraq and Afghanistan, which I had worked on with a national group of like-minded people since January, voted democratically ( 1vote per person) to work to unite the anti-war movement and to call for the kind of mass demonstrations that were so instrumental in ending the Vietnam war. In both conferences, I met many new friends and embraced old comrades–-so important to me now.

In the summer, I sat on my front porch in Northern New York and watched the grass and my grandchildren grow!! Ralph went as a delegate to the Green Party Convention to assure that Cynthia McKinney (the only politician who supported me when she was in office) would be the candidate. We worked right up to election day on her campaign. Although our political preference is not that forum, we felt that it was important to present the contradictions and most importantly, to alert the Black and progressive community to the choice—vote for Barack and join the imperialists or for Cynthia to end the empire, abroad and at home.

Also during the summer, while cooking like a mad woman, all the wonderful fruits and vegetables, I also keynoted the founding of what was at first called the Muslim Innocence Project, later changed to Project Salaam. The need was felt to gather together those sympathetic to Muslims targeted by the government and the grave injustices faced by them in the Courts, and justice system. Meeting on a Saturday (!) In late August(!) we determined to become a clearing house for cases, tactics repeated by the government in trial (i.e. the use of Ben Ladin, even if totally irrelevant) and set up a list serve. (Musliminnocenceproject at riseup.org)

In September, Ralph and I were off to the Bay Area to serve as keynoter (one more time!)for the Radical Feminists who were celebrating 40 years. It, too was a marvelous conference, with international speakers and attendees. The final banquet was as boisterous and joyful and optimistic as the Left should always be. We are lucky enough to have been given the insight and the camaraderie !!

In October, I participated in an October 11 forum in NYC sponsored by folks in the Assembly who believed that we need to hold the politiciansÂ’ feet to the Fire. Also, the Jericho march at the UN for political prisoners and POWs held in the US.

We were then off the Guild convention in Detroit. Ian Head, our webmaster and comrade, was honored. It was another joyous meeting ground with my olÂ’buddies embarked on cases, I long to be a part of(the Minneapolis RNC conspiracy case) and some of the young law students, now lawyers, who told me that my stand is what brought them into the law. (Be still my heart.) Finally, there was the publication of a new book, Let Freedom Ring, a tour de force(900+ pages) gathering all there is on political prisoners and pows,(I wrote the Afterward, she said modestly!)

Now, Ralph is attempting to start a firewood delivery business–bringing quality Northern forest hardwoods to the city, where they can’t keep their holidays without them (paraphrasing Robert Frost). If you have a fireplace or a stove, go to BurnBabyBurnfirewood.com, and Ralph and his rascals will show up on your doorstep!

I have written so much but I want to answer the many people who ask if the new presidency could help my case. I have to say I am doubtful. The legal bureaucracy is entrenched, there is little sympathy, except for the notion that I am one of the vestiges of BushÂ’s many injustices. I KNOW THAT NOTHING CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT THE MASSIVE SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE !! On a personal level, if Obama will pardon Leonard, Mutulu, Marilyn, Sekou et.al., I will gladly do my time.

That said, we continue to Work and ...Wait.

LoveStruggle

Lynne
Posted by: tu3031   2008-12-10 13:54  

#8  Cornsilk,

Having Lynne Stewart stop in for conjugal visits would surely be worse than a death sentence.
Posted by: mhw   2008-12-10 13:46  

#7  I'm gonna piss a bunch of you off here, but.....I like the idea that they aren't gonna get death if the judge accepts their plea.

Think about it for a moment. They get death....they're martyrs for Islam. They'll get to make their little statement right before they get their (unfortunately) painless shot in the arm. Their portraits will be put in a place of honor in every stinking radical madrassah for decades. It's about as sexy as it gets in their twisted little world without involving a herd of underage goats.

They get stuck with life, and they might really luck out and get sent to Marion. Lovely weather there. Give 'em neighbors who just love pork BBQ, or maybe had a family member or friend who was in the WTC or the Pentagon on that fateful day. No martyrdom, no one will care much about their utterances, and when they finally croak, no odes to their studliness on Hamas TV from the little psychotic girl with the kiddie program.

The ACLU doesn't get fundraising mileage out of it, no one will be that interested in appealing it, and maybe we could drop Lynne Stewart in for conjugal visits (just kidding on that one).

If it helps, think of it as a death sentence that takes a really long time for fulfillment, and if they are lucky, they get a syphilitic llama in the afterlife as a reward.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2008-12-10 13:16  

#6  What if we just kill them a little bit? After all, there is a big difference between being mostly dead and all dead.
Posted by: SteveS   2008-12-10 13:15  

#5  with a pig for weight
Posted by: bman   2008-12-10 11:28  

#4  These guys will confess if it gets them to Paradise, or Vegas if they're not into this afterlife stuff. Who wouldn't. Selfish little twits. Put them in a big sack and drown them like unwanted puppies.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon   2008-12-10 10:05  

#3  Scooter your granpa probably did it because he loved America and wanted to be a part of it. Zero does not and wants to change or destroy America as you have come to know and love it. No need for the name change there.
Posted by: Hellfish   2008-12-10 08:15  

#2  For me the most depressing moment since 9/11 was when less than 10 years after the attack a man with the middle name "Hussein" was elected president of these United States. I don't know about y'all, but my family name was something different when my great-grandpa moved to this country. He wanted blend in, and assimilate with native-born Americans. It's very easy to change your name in this country. To something "American-sounding", for instance.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder   2008-12-10 02:27  

#1  So executing this dirtbag is not appropriate because he was 'tortured' according to the ACLU.

We know he did it, he confessed, and every concept of justice applied throughout human history (besides absolutist anti-death penalty positions) say he deserves to pay for his crime with his life.

What twisted morality. There will be no civil liberties to protect if we lack the seriousness and moral self confidence to deliver justice for confessed mass murderers who want to destroy our society and culture. For me, the most depressing day since 9/11 was when that left wing jury in Alexandria let Moussaoui live.
Posted by: JAB   2008-12-10 01:02  

00:00