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| Massive riots cripple Greece's main cities |
| 2008-12-09 |
| Gangs of youths smashed their way through central Athens, Thessaloniki and other Greek cities on Monday, torching stores, buildings and cars in the third day of mayhem after the fatal police shooting of a teenager. In the country's worst rioting in decades, dozens of shops, banks and even luxury hotels had their windows smashed and burned as youths fought running battles with riot police. Black smoke rose above the city center, mingling with clouds of tear gas. Broken glass littered the streets. In an outpouring of rage, high school and university students joined self-styled anarchists in throwing everything from fruit and coins to rocks and Molotov cocktails at police and attacked police stations throughout the day. "Cops! Pigs! Murderers!" protesters screamed at riot police. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #24 "Q-ships, Arclight, anarchists and Aris all in the same thread." You left out class-warfare from our resident union thug. |
| Posted by: Milton Fandango 2008-12-09 19:04 |
| #23 Who are these hooded youths of which we hear? 'unacceptable'. There's that word again - he must be taking lessons from Ban Ki-Moon. |
| Posted by: KBK 2008-12-09 17:02 |
| #22 Sorry, again. Not accustomed to the new toolbox. Try again. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-12-09 15:31 |
| #21 Sorry, folks. The correct link is here. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-12-09 15:30 |
| #20 They just need a few streetsweepers is all. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-12-09 15:23 |
| #19 Aris: go away and stay away. AoS |
| Posted by: Steve White 2008-12-09 14:46 |
| #18 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=greek |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2008-12-09 14:35 |
| #17 Bring back the Turks! |
| Posted by: ed 2008-12-09 14:09 |
| #16 Q-ships, Arclight, anarchists and Aris all in the same thread. And tw going all Ghengis Khan is just a cherry on top. Drinks, indeed! Make mine a MOAB, on the rocks, please. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2008-12-09 14:08 |
| #15 |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2008-12-09 12:52 |
| #14 All governments need a little occasional mayhem to remind them that they are powerless against even a modest uprising. They tend to forget that and push the envelope during periods of extended calm. Our own govt, both current and incoming could profit from a reminder once in a while that they draw their power from the will of the people, not from divine right. They have been hooking up the super-rich class pretty largely for the last 8 years and running the rest of the country to the brink of depression. I wouldn't be surprised to see some unrest here before long. So yeah, the greek rioters are punks and idiots, but the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time.... |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2008-12-09 12:34 |
| #13 You works fine. Called to the colors yet? |
| Posted by: .5MT 2008-12-09 12:15 |
| #12 A little Bird tells me that alot of the rioters aren't really Greek at all. Mainly asylum seekers and leftist student organisers. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2008-12-09 11:45 |
| #11 Sorry, Besoeker, I avoided the usage of "y'all" as a courtesy to Frank. |
| Posted by: Ar.K. 2008-12-09 11:13 |
| #10 #7 You people Ended my reading at that point. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2008-12-09 10:39 |
| #9 The difference between a rock and a bullet is mass and velocity. Both kill - ask Goliath [in ancient history Balearic slingers were famous for their ability to kill or injure on the battlefield] or for that matter numerous females stoned to death in the name of honor. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-12-09 10:02 |
| #8 I think we can discern a common pattern as they appear to gravitate around university areas. Even on this side of the Atlantic the areas are known hang out and hand outs for anarchists and a general sedentary population [vice transient student population] that suffers from a disproportionate arrested adolescence syndrome. Higher crime stats and general anti-social [aka 'rebellious'] attitudes are systematic. Of course they insist that the society that supports the institution upon which they parasitically survive off of must sustain said institution. Wonder what what happen if the 'university bubble' popped and these cretins had to really work for a living? |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-12-09 09:58 |
| #7 You people believe the issue is "policemen vs anarchists". I don't blame you since that's what most Greeks (and certainly the anarchists) seem to believe also. But the way I see it the same police that murdered the 15-year old or allowed anarchist violence to run amok (tolerance towards "leftist" violence), is the same police that has allowed Neonazi groups to launch pogroms against immigrants (tolerance towards "rightist" violence), and the same police that brutalizes prisoners (tolerance towards its own violence), and which allowed the terrorists of 17th November to go uncaptured for decades. This isn't a war of policemen vs anarchists, it's a war that both sides have launched against law and order. Fascism and Anarchy are both the enemies of liberal democracy. (After all, the police-loving fascist party "LAOS" and the anarchist-loving leftwing parties have a similar attitude of hating the West and loving Russia -- if they were actually on opposite sides of the world ideological conflict one would expect they'd actually differ on foreign policy... atleast occasionally) "If that "minor" had been throwing a rock at me I'd have put two rounds center mass just as soon as he drew his fist back." Yes, but then again, you're a coward who justifies lethal action by the mere possibility of *personal* injury. I mean you could have atleast tried to disguise the cowardice by saying you'd shoot the guy if he was throwing the stone at *anyone*, not just yourself. |
| Posted by: Ar.K. 2008-12-09 09:58 |
| #6 Gangsters, Terrorists and the domestic 'moonbats' have for a long time used women and 'minors' on their "front lines". Any interaction with authority figures creates the effect of 'police (or military) brutality against our children! (or women)'. I sense that the Greek anarchists are probably no different and actually sent the kids out for the initial confrontation telling them to spark some 'action', whatever it may be. Having this many rioting 'outsiders' in such a short time requires 'pre-planning'. |
| Posted by: Mullah Richard 2008-12-09 08:52 |
| #5 If that "minor" had been throwing a rock at me I'd have put two rounds center mass just as soon as he drew his fist back. Rocks are damned dangerous weapons and just because the bastard throwing it isn't of legal age doesn't mean it can't do serious damage. My sympathies lie with the cops. Gun the protesters down in the streets and drive police cars over their dead bodies. Then bury them in a mass grave with no memorial service. |
| Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 2008-12-09 08:29 |
| #4 little early for drinking, TW. Better cut back |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-12-09 08:11 |
| #3 Evidently it's now ok in Greece to throw rocks and fire bombs at the police. International Herald Tribune Greece's prime minister, Costas Karamanlis, wrote a letter to the boy's parents expressing his sorrow. "I know nothing can relieve your pain, but I assure you . . . the state will act, as it ought to, so that yesterday's tragedy won't be repeated," he wrote. "It is inconceivable for there not to be punishment when a person, let alone a minor, loses their life," Interior Minister Prokopis Pavlopoulos said at a Saturday news conference. "The loss of life is something that is inconceivable in a democracy." |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2008-12-09 07:26 |
| #2 Reports said the teenager who was shot was part of a group stoning the police car. he then proceeded to attempt throwing a "petrol bomb" at the vehicle. |
| Posted by: john frum 2008-12-09 07:19 |
| #1 Fetch the Israeli skunk spray. Spray stinkiness from overhead, and shoot kneecaps from below. This is well beyond boys will be boys. Then jail all the smelly, screaming idiots for complicity, making them all liable for the cost of repairing the destruction they participated in -- proof of said participation being the smell. Broken kneecaps being merely a lagniappe. Or send in the Q-ships to Arclight the place. That would end the riots, too. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-12-09 04:25 |