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Home Front: Politix

US court probes Obama's birth certificate

2008-12-07

A U.S. lawyer, of Lebanese origin, has filed a claim with the Supreme Court challenging President-elect Barack Obama's presidency, citing suspicions over his birth certificate, a Saudi newspaper reported on Friday.

Somehow I have my doubts anything is ever going to come of this, regardless of the merits of the case...

The people pushing these cases are for the most part Troofers and wingnuts of various types.

Joseph Farah argued that Obama does not have a birth certificate to prove that he was born an American--as opposed to being naturalized--which might contradict the U.S. constitution, the London-based al-Hayat reported.

Farah alleges that Obama was not born in Hawaii but in Mombasa, Kenya and has gathered more than 45,000 signatures to petition constitutional authorities to force Obama to present his original birth certificate to make sure he is suitable for the presidency before Jan.20.

According to article 2, section 1 of the American constitution "No person except a natural born Citizen...shall be eligible to the Office of President" effectively excluding naturalized citizens.

The Lebanese Christian lawyer--who heads an anti-Arab and Islam website--has previously launched a campaign against former president Bill Clinton through a series of news features over the suicide of the White House lawyer Fence Foster in 1993.

Posted by:Fred

#26 OS, I think Nimble was referring to the One, the Lightworker.

Posted by: Pappy 2008-12-07 20:49

#25 Oldspook, I think you misunderstood Nimble's comment. It wasn't a dig at you.

Posted by: ed 2008-12-07 20:27

#24 And FYI, I believe this is all a big bunch of nothing and probably a waste of time. I have a feeling the natural born citizen thing will resolve eventually as a vanity issue for "Barry", considering his ego. Its probably somethign liek a different named father or different birth name on the birth cert.

But don't go after the questioners or call into question their "halo" - they are NOT the ones taking office -- thats an old lefty distraction tactic used only be feeblminded idiots. The questioners, no matter how stupid themselves, have a right to an answer to this particualr question. We should know that whoever takes office does so constitutionally -- like the election and Electoral College -- this is just part and parcel of the same. (Unlike Andrews Sullivan's addleminded pursuit of "Trig was not Palins son", or other fringe truther/winger issues).

Posted by: OldSpook 2008-12-07 19:50

#23 And one other thing Nimble Spin-ble, its not *my* halo thats in question in incredibly annoying piee of shit. Quit goignoff topic and talk about Obama's qualifications if you have the guts and brainpower (neither of which are your strong suits).

Posted by: OldSpook 2008-12-07 19:43

#22 I did have to prove my birth, and produce a birth certificate, as well as qualify for my security clearance. I'll grant the clearance comes with the job, (not the other way around liek iti did for me), but basic qualifications shoudl be answered. They were for McCain in terms of his being born in a O-CONUS hospital.

Why can I not ask the same for someone taking the highest office in the land?

And by the way, NS, Fuck you. I never clainmed to have a halo. Who the hell or you to drag such things up you asshole?

Posted by: OldSpook 2008-12-07 19:40

#21 Good afternoon Ed, I am Special Agent Smith with the Defense Security Service. Mr. Obama has listed you on his ESPQ as a character reference. Would you know of any reason why Mr. Obama should not be trusted with the safeguarding of our nation's classified materials......?

Posted by: Besoeker 2008-12-07 18:00

#20 Too bad Obama won't have to go through a security clearance check. I would like to hear his explanation counting US Navy ship traffic into Pearl with ~~his old man~~ Frank. I bet the Japanese wished they had a few Franks in their employ in 1941.

Posted by: ed 2008-12-07 17:38

#19 You don't have a halo.

Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-12-07 17:31

#18 After all, I had to give my birth cert when I enlisted and got a clearance.

Military service and clearance, I must note, that Obama would be barred from holding due to his use of cocaine, and now gets only due to office.

Posted by: OldSpook 2008-12-07 17:27

#17 What worries me is that they refuse to release the birt cert. Its a simple thing. WHy not?

Posted by: OldSpook 2008-12-07 17:25

#16 My gut feeling says this will be thrown out and not to waste any more brainpower hoping.

Posted by: Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-12-07 16:49

#15 Hellfish nails it. The Constitution makes it clear who is qualified to become President. If the Big O did not qualify, then he is committing fraud. However the Constitution does not specify minimum qualifications to apply for the job. Too bad, heh.

Posted by: Alaska Paul 2008-12-07 15:30

#14 If O(shit) gets in next time I nominate Arnold Swarcheneger (SP?)

I think the governator is probably overqualified, just born in the wrong place.

Posted by: Rednek Jim 2008-12-07 12:55

#13 oldfolk, atomic conspiracy, et al, you miss the point. Is he qualified or isn't he? If he isn't and is allowed to assume the office then we've said the constitution doesn't matter.

Posted by: Boss Flealet4612 2008-12-07 12:26

#12 Hellfish nails it. It IS THE LAW. It's like being pregnant; either you are or you're not. NOBODY is above the law, not even the ONE.

Posted by: WolfDog 2008-12-07 11:50

#11 It a matter of law. You're eligible or you're not. Let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: Hellfish 2008-12-07 10:23

#10 What unpleasant information could possibly be on it?

That he's really Barry Marshall Davis? Not as cool sounding as Barack Obama, for sure.

davemac

Posted by: Omiting the Younger9947 2008-12-07 10:21

#9 I don't care who ends up with it, but they should be a natural born citizen. If you let this guy slide in there with a 'close enough', it will be the thin end of the wedge.

Posted by: bigjim-ky 2008-12-07 10:17

#8 It seems extremely unlikely that Obama is not a 'natural born' citizen - but it IS bothersome that he refuses to release the original long-form document. Why not? What unpleasant information could possibly be on it? Is he just doing it on general principle, like the Republicans resisting release of the Cheney files? (If so, I think it is misguided principle, and I think a process should be established where all candidates are required to prove their eligibility.)

Posted by: Glenmore 2008-12-07 10:10

#7 They say we're young and we don't know
We won't find out until we grow
Well I don't know if all that's true
'Cause you got me, and baby I got you

Babe
I got you babe I got you babe

They say our love won't pay the rent
Before it's earned, our money's all been spent
I guess that's so, we don't have a pot
But at least I'm sure of all the things we got

Babe
I got you babe I got you babe

I got flowers in the spring I got you to wear my ring
And when I'm sad, you're a clown
And if I get scared, you're always around
So let them say your hair's too long
'Cause I don't care, with you I can't go wrong
Then put your little hand in mine
There ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb

[HIM:] Babe
[BOTH:] I got you babe I got you babe

I got you to hold my hand
I got you to understand
I got you to walk with me
I got you to talk with me
Igot you to kiss goodnight
I got you to hold me tight
I got you, I won't let go
I got you to love me so

I got you babe
I got you babe
I got you babe
I got you babe
I got you babe

Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-12-07 07:56

#6 I'll gladly take Biden over an imposter.

Posted by: Besoeker 2008-12-07 07:38

#5 I have to wonder what these kooks think they are accomplishing.
What would happen in the unlikely event that they succeed and Obama is somehow determined to be ineligible?

Under the 12th Amendment, the winning candidate must receive an absolute majority of electoral votes. McCain cannot become president no matter how this shakes out. Complicating this is the fact that 24 states have laws requiring electors to vote for the person to whom they are pledged, but I haven't checked to see how this affects the vote count. If enough Democrat electors can switch their votes to someone else, presumably Biden, he could still get an absolute majority. If not, nobody has an absolute majority and the election goes to the Democrat controlled house.

If Obama is declared ineligible after the electoral college vote, the result is the same yet again, Biden becomes VP since his eligibility is not in dispute and immediately succeeds to the vacant presidency on January 20th.

One odd possibility is that Biden could actually be elected to both offices; if Obama's ineligibility is declared before December 15th and enough Obama electors can switch their votes to him. He can only accept one though, so, once again, he ends up as POTUS and has to nominate a new VP.

It's Obama or Biden, take your choice.

Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2008-12-07 07:13

#4 You're right. Done.

Posted by: Steve White 2008-12-07 01:26

#3 Stroke? Shit, he'll just turn up missing and be found on a table in the WH after a few years, probably having suffered a self-inflicted gunshot complete with suicide note.

Last I looked, Farah's petition had over 160k signatures, not 45k.

Posted by: logi_cal 2008-12-07 01:21

#2 Mods, this truly deserves the "Not This SHit Again" picture.

Posted by: OldSpook 2008-12-07 01:08

#1 And just what do they expect to do if they are right?

President Biden? YIKES.

If Hillary becomes VP in that corcumstance, I'd lay 8:5 on Biden haveing a stroke fairly soon after takling office.

Posted by: OldSpook 2008-12-07 01:07

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