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Gorbachev calls on Obama to carry out 'perestroika' in the U.S.
2008-11-10
Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev has said that the Obama administration in the United States needs far-reaching 'perestroika' reforms to overcome the financial crisis and restore balance in the world.
Look how well it worked in the Soviet Union...
The term perestroika, meaning restructuring, was used by Gorbachev in the late 1980s to describe a series of reforms that abolished state planning in the Soviet Union.
And look how well that turned out ...
In an interview with Italy's La Stampa published on Friday, Gorbachev said President-elect Barack Obama needs to fundamentally change the misguided course followed by President George W. Bush over the past eight years. Gorbachev said that after transforming his country in the late 1980s, he had told the Americans that it was their turn to act, but that Washington, celebrating its Cold War victory, was not interested in "a new model of a society, where politics, economics and morals went hand in hand."
Oh good, a communist is lecturing us on morals ...
Certainly the former Soviet Union represents a model for all the world to follow... Oh. Wait. Never mind.
He said the Republicans have failed to realize that the Soviet Union no longer exists, that Europe has changed, and that new powers like China, Brazil and Mexico have emerged as important players on the world stage.
Turns out Mike that we've seen the changes. The Soviet Union doesn't exist but it's been replaced by something only a little less odious. Europe in fact hasn't changed so much as it has continued to devolve. We saw the emergence of China forty years ago, back when we cut deals with them to stifle your ambitions. Mexico, a country we know well, is a basket case.
He told the paper that the world is waiting for Obama to act, and that the White House needs to restore trust in cooperation with the United States among the Russians. "This is a man of our times, he is capable of restarting dialogue, all the more since the circumstances will allow him to get out of a dead-end situation. Barack Obama has not had a very long career, but it is hard to find faults, and he has led an election campaign winning over the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton herself. We can judge from this that this person is capable of engaging in dialogue and understanding current realities."
Just what Bambi needs, an endorsement from a washed up commie. Thought he already had that in William Ayers.
Former Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky, founder of now defunct Yukos oil giant, who is in prison on fraud and tax evasion charges, also used the word perestroika in discussing the future course of the Obama administration. In an article published in the business daily Vedomosti on Friday, Khodorkovsky said Obama's election win was not merely another change of power in a separate country, but was important for all states. He said that, "being a liberal himself, he thinks that the world will take a left turn," and that "a global perestroika would be a logical response to the global crisis."

"The paradigm of global development is about to change. The era inaugurated by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher 30 years ago is over."

He said decisions in neoliberal economies had been made mainly by supranational institutions and transnational corporations. Khodorkovsky predicted: "Globalization will slow to a crawl, but will not stop. The 'golden billion' of the world's richest people will have to abandon hopes of increasing their wealth, but high consumer standards which developed at the end of the 20th century will be unaffected by the change. The striving for political freedom and open competition of personalities and ideas will not disappear."
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#14  Advice from the most irrelevant (I'm sure most Russians under 20 wouldn't recognize the name) man in Russia.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-11-10 12:32  

#13  Gorby's what you might call a useful idiot except he was useful to us, not them. But now that he's served his purpose it's important to remember that he is still an idiot.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2008-11-10 12:16  

#12  To me, the furthest separation of all three is better.

They are making a place where there is no way you can "agree to disagree", no choice, and no freedom. Political control of the economy will be a disaster (see 100 million murdered by Marx worshippers). Political control of "morality" is a disaster (see the War on Drugs, the Taliban, and the Kingdoms Morality police).
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-11-10 11:07  

#11  By 'Perestroika', he means 'weaken'. Don't worry Gorbi, Obama will weaken the US plenty before he is done.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-11-10 11:02  

#10  Gorbachev hasn't drunk himself to death yet? And a unity of politics, economics and morality sounds like the classic definition of fascism to me...
Posted by: Mitch H.   2008-11-10 10:33  

#9  WTF, "Mexico" is a new world player, then why can't they keep their people in that Worker's Paradise"?
Posted by: Hammerhead   2008-11-10 09:52  

#8  Gorbachev, having made his own contribution to the fall of the Soviet Union, wants to do the same to the US.
Posted by: WilliamMarcyTweed   2008-11-10 09:08  

#7  Putin's big mistake is the classic Russian argument of beans vs. bullets. Putin assumed that capitalism would take care of the beans argument, so he could concentrate on bullets. But in this he was mistaken.

The end result is that he is trying to built a steel superstructure on a wooden hull. Instead, he should have applied himself to first and foremost, encouraging more Russians to have a lot of children.

And while every Russian leader tries to do this, usually it is in ineffectual ways, like giving prizes or awards for having children. Instead he should have built new cities just for young couples, to make a baby boom.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-11-10 08:54  

#6  The era inaugurated by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher 30 years ago is over."

At lease we can agree on one thing.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-11-10 07:39  

#5   but high consumer standards which developed at the end of the 20th century will be unaffected by the change.

Brought about by free trade, but by the means of Obama magic, can be continued by protectionism.

The striving for political freedom and open competition of personalities and ideas will not disappear."

I'm sure in some alternative reality that makes sense.
Former Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky, founder of now defunct Yukos oil giant, who is in prison on fraud and tax evasion charges,

What a surprise!
Posted by: tipper   2008-11-10 07:20  

#4  "a new model of a society, where politics, economics and morals went hand in hand."

Sounds like Russia today, but not in the way he means, I'm sure.
Posted by: no mo uro   2008-11-10 05:19  

#3  and that the White House needs to restore trust in cooperation with the United States among the Russians.

IIUC, reading and listening to people I trust like Françoise Thom, not the putin-zombies of the french right, my understanding is that the new deal in russia is a massive and concerted effort by the power through the various media, academia, entertainment, paramilitary youth movements,... to :

1) re-abilitate stalin's memory as one of the greatest russian leaders (second to czar putin, of course), and whitewash and excuse his crimes against the russian people among others by

2) painting foreign powers, and most notably the West and the USA in particular (western Europe is depicted as africanized and decadent, which actually is pretty accurate) as perennial ennemies o the Motherland, always plotting and scheming against it, and so entities to be hated and feared (thank god the Fearless Leader is here to protect the russian people).

The national-communist-imperialist russia of putin is gearing up for war, if not in the armed forces, at least in the massification of the public opinion (apparently, there is a much more uniformized hatred of the West and the USa now than during the soviet era, when the official propaganda was not believed by most). Remember, the collapse of th eUSSR was the "greatest tragedy of the 20th century", russia has been "humiliated" (by the collpase of the communist mepire, think about it), russia has a natural "vital space" and "spheres of influence" which are being trampled on by the USA, which are trying to "surround it" (notably through the Color Revolutions, all Cia-plots),...
And the America-hating wingnuts in France are eating it up like candy, by the way.

So, this really is doubletalk, as russia itself is not interested at all by "restoring trust", quite the opposite.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2008-11-10 05:00  

#2  was not interested in "a new model of a society, where politics, economics and morals went hand in hand."

Big BS alert: gorby was and most probably still is (though he's now a watermelon) a bona fide commie.
Perestroika & glasnost were no reforms "where politics, economics and morals went hand in hand" aimed at abolishing the communist state apparatus, in fact, it was quite the opposite, they were aimed at making it sustainable, so it could go on. Make some changes at the margins and make it more efficient, so to prevent collapse (didn't work out, thanksfully).

And gorby was no liberal neither, his goal was to have a convergence with the then EEC (cf. Bukosky's claim) and so expel US influence fom the so-called "european home".

So, really, having a real-life, unreformed commie apparatchik lecture the USA about "morals" and political reform is pretty funny, should be infuriating, but, well, we ARE living in bizarro world, aren't we?
Posted by: anonymous5089   2008-11-10 04:47  

#1  I call that big talk for a man with a map of Poland on his forehead.
Posted by: Pliny the Middle-aged   2008-11-10 03:03  

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