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Abkhazia, S. Ossetia must remain part of Georgia: Bush
2008-08-17
US President George W. Bush said Saturday that the breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia must remain part of Georgia. Bush said in a speech at his ranch in Crawford, Texas that the two regions, embroiled for the past two weeks in a bloody conflict between Russia and Georgia, are "a part of Georgia," and "they will remain so." "There is no room for debate on this matter," Bush added.
Posted by:Fred

#24  I have used this nym ever since I commented and didn't want to change it for exactly that reason.

The South Ossetians do not want to be ruled by Georgia. They do not want it now, they did not want it 20 years ago.

Abkhazia btw was incorporated into Georgia by Stalin.
Posted by: Sherese Jones6358   2008-08-17 23:54  

#23  do they have to explain the Russian hand up their puppet ass? I thought not...

I have no love for the so. ossetians , but the least you could do is adopt an identifiable nym so when the Russian boot treads on civilians, you would bear the verbal (oh so tough, I know) consequences. I guess not, coward
Posted by: Frank G   2008-08-17 23:43  

#22  "No room for debate" is quite outrageous, if you think about it.

So the South Ossetians cannot even debate what they want?
Posted by: Sherese Jones6358   2008-08-17 23:33  

#21  no, he lost it to "Another Darrell", who, it seemed, had a proclivity for dirt and slime. Fred, however, did patronize the facilities "Another Darrell" religiously (so to speak) maintained. So, in a way, you know him ....directly. Good to know, huh?



nice try
Posted by: Frank G   2008-08-17 23:27  

#20  Did Fred Pruitt every get that janitor job that he went for? He could use a dental plan.
Posted by: Another Darrell   2008-08-17 22:41  

#19  That makes my evening!
Posted by: Darrell   2008-08-17 20:10  

#18  Actually, the only character flaw I've noticed in lotp in many years is that she has failed to dump you, you insufferable bore.
Posted by: Darrell   2008-08-17 20:08  

#17  trailing wife:

Fred posts a link; who says that means he agrees with it? He has posted jihadi stuff. Have some common sense.

Why on earth do you get exasperated? Assuming 200 views per link - and many of those are from comebackers - that probably means about 50 people at best check out these pages. Only about 1 out of 5 posts reflect even a minute knowledge of global issues. Mod views might reduce the totals further.

The world is approaching 7 billion people, ergo a handful of people with political opinions - most based on regurgitate and unlearned preconceptions - don't even rate a speck. Be aware that Rantburg rant is used as exemplary of political myopia. Proponents of the dumbing down thesis would have a field day with some jerk-spew that issues from wells of insipidity. Don't be food for those who treat you like primitive dolts.

The apologists for the Tskhinvali Massacre Barrage, are no different than Nazi and Soviet toadies.

FYI: Russia has a free and open internet. None of my material is suppressed there; lotp dumps most of my stuff here. That shows bad character.
Posted by: McZoid   2008-08-17 20:03  

#16  As usual though, try to be cautious about whether Toranaga is always talking about the same thing you're talking about.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2008-08-17 17:25  

#15  Yes he won.

And Blackthorne was referring to the Dutch struggle against Spain.

It's what it all boils down to: You win, you were right.
Posted by: Sherese Jones6358   2008-08-17 17:01  

#14  The historial basis for Toranaga won, right?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2008-08-17 16:50  

#13  From the movie "Shogun"

So many to choose from but one of my favorite is:

Toranaga: There is no mitigating factor for rebellion against your liege lord.

Blackthorne: Unless you win.

Toranaga: Very well, you may have named the one mitigating factor.
Posted by: Sherese Jones6358   2008-08-17 13:46  

#12  "There is no room for debate on this matter"

Said the Spanish King to the Dutch in the 16th century
Said King George to the American colonists
Said Milosevic to Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia...

When an overwhelming majority of people want something, there WILL be a debate on that matter.

Posted by: Sherese Jones6358   2008-08-17 13:34  

#11  Clearly, most posters here have lost confidence in Saint Saak. Get with the program

McZoid dear, you did notice that it was Fred who posted this article? That would be Mr. Fred Pruitt, retired military intelligence analyst and owner of this website. This site is his personal and private property, within which he can do as he damned well pleases, regardless of the opinions of any majority or minority which he permits to post here.

Surely your mother taught you better manners toward a gracious host, up there in the wilds of Canada.
Posted by: trailing wife   2008-08-17 13:05  

#10  They better!

I know. Just words... Is that what you are trying to say?

Afghanistan--unlikely
Iraq--chances slim, but better than none.
Posted by: Spike Uniter   2008-08-17 06:16  

#9  Abkhazia, S. Ossetia must remain part of Georgia: Bush

And Iraq & Afghanistan must become liberal democracies.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-08-17 06:07  

#8  
Posted by: Spike Uniter   2008-08-17 05:57  

#7  
Comment removed due to page-busting link.
Posted by: McZoid   2008-08-17 04:52  

#6  Geebus, Zoid...

Someone is good at editing video and production of satirical clips and you think it is real!

I estimated fairly decent gullibility factor figure, but you just blew it out of water.
Posted by: Spike Uniter   2008-08-17 04:34  

#5  Three types of burned out resolve so far; will we reach pure desperation ad hominem nirvana?

The Sauds have refused 100% of US extradition applications since 9-11. Duh, what do we do about that? Duh, deflect our Orwellian "two minute hate" needs at fictitious "enemies." Duh, where can I see Saint Saak chewing his hero-tie?
Posted by: McZoid   2008-08-17 04:13  

#4  McZoid, you sound like a broken record. Not sure what's your motivation, but people here are inoculated. It's futile. Or are you paid per word?

Just tell your politruk it is useless and ask for a reassignmnet. Maybe he won't shoot you and assign you to DailyKos.
Posted by: Spike Uniter   2008-08-17 02:55  

#3  I hope the enemies of freedom, like Russia, are populated at high levels with intellects such as yours McMoron. Their destruction in the coming years will be all that much easier.
Posted by: jefe101   2008-08-17 02:46  

#2  One wonders why we bother having other posters, with you around to say what they all believe in.

Any other cheap rhetorical tricks?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2008-08-17 02:38  

#1  The Germans and French have a clear position: they will not recognize Georgian territorial integrity as long as there are unsettled sovereignty issues with Russia. I hope this at long last sinks in: within a sovereignty association - Commonwealth of Independent States - Georgia was given administrative powers, in trust, over ethnic minority enclaves. Nationalist seized on Russian benevolence to commence implementation of the infamous "Georgia for Georgians" ethnic cleansing scheme. That was aborted until Georgia's current number one loser attempted to play the NATO card, and his last play started with indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas.

Please, toss away the broken records - don't be afraid to look at the preconception-beating, tie-munching video of Mr Stupid - and allow the above to impact on the brain.

Clearly, most posters here have lost confidence in Saint Saak. Get with the program.
Posted by: McZoid   2008-08-17 02:22  

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