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Afghanistan |
US(MC) says 400 Afghan insurgents killed since April |
2008-07-09 |
![]() After months of fighting around Garmser, Petronzio said the area is not yet secure but is more stable. 'The Taliban proved they wanted to fight for Garmser and we took the fight to them,' he told a news conference in Kabul. Petronzio said NATO and Afghan forces are committed to completing their mission in an area that is an important gateway for insurgent fighters smuggling weapons from Pakistan. The Marines will be replaced by British troops this fall. 'If the Taliban are waiting for us to leave, they will have a very long wait,' he said. Meanwhile, the top NATO commander here told The Associated Press in an interview this week that rockets and mortars fired from militants in Pakistan at U.S. and Afghan border outposts in Afghanistan have spiked in the last month. 'We have seen an increase in the eastern part of Afghanistan of cross-border indirect fires coming into some of our, not only our but Afghan' outposts, said McKiernan, who took command of the 40-nation International Security Assistance Force mission last month. But McKiernan said that U.S. and NATO forces have been returning fire. 'Of course our presumption is that the threat feels safer firing (from) across that border. I'm not sure that's the case, that they're any safer, because we do return those fires, coordinated with the Pak military,' McKiernan said. U.S. troops have fired artillery and used airstrikes to hit militants inside Pakistan. The militants use that country's lawless border areas as a base for staging their attacks against Afghan and foreign troops here. McKiernan offered no specifics on the number of attacks coming into Afghanistan from Pakistan, but said: 'There definitely has been an increase since I've been here in the last 30 days.' The four-star general said he thinks those attacks have spiked because militant groups have the freedom in Pakistan's lawless tribal areas to move across the Afghan-Pakistan border unimpeded and resupply and recruit in Pakistan. |
Posted by:ed |
#8 TCB |
Posted by: bigjim-ky 2008-07-09 21:21 |
#7 A bit of history if I may : Afghanistan has NEVER been at peace, anytime in recorded history. The best that one can hope for in that tribal mishmash is that there is an outside force attempting to control the country and that the tribes band together against the outsider. If the Afghanis are not fighting an outsider, they are fighting each other. Fortunately for the West, Pakistan is starting to become the boogie man for the Afghan public - due in no small part to the activities of the ISI. The useful role of outside agitator being taken, the Afghanis in the main will unite in hostility to the same. |
Posted by: Shieldwolf 2008-07-09 18:30 |
#6 A bit of history if I may : Afghanistan has NEVER been at peace, anytime in recorded history. The best that one can hope for in that tribal mishmash is that there is an outside force attempting to control the country and that the tribes band together against the outsider. If the Afghanis are not fighting an outsider, they are fighting each other. Fortunately for the West, Pakistan is starting to become the boogie man for the Afghan public - due in no small part to the activities of the ISI. The useful role of outside agitator being taken, the Afghanis in the main will unite in hostility to the same. |
Posted by: Shieldwolf 2008-07-09 18:30 |
#5 'moose, I'm all for a "linebacker-2" if everyone else is. |
Posted by: Alistaire Snavith3832 AKA Broadhead6 2008-07-09 18:28 |
#4 I have to say that we have long needed to rethink the Afghan campaign, as it is militarily far harder than Iraq ever was. And, if there are any real Vietnam comparisons, they apply a lot more to Afghanistan. The easiest way to imagine this is to think of Afghanistan as South Vietnam, and Pakistan as a combined, North Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. http://www.mapsofworld.com/vietnam/vietnam-road-map.gif The enormous contiguous border provides numerous easy routes for infiltration, even though in either case there are major natural obstacles. But add to that a seemingly endless supply of enemy foot soldiers, and you have a problem. Eventually, the Afghans have to take control of their own country for NATO to leave. And they will be the ones who determine who they will tolerate in their country and who they will not. But they cannot act in a vacuum. Until Pakistan controls itself, Afghanistan will never be at peace. |
Posted by: Anonymoose 2008-07-09 16:45 |
#3 OP, maybe they can hire some old East German border guards. They have the skills and |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-07-09 14:43 |
#2 Napalm and cluster munitions. Fill the passes except for a small, narrow path that leads across. Set up a kill-zone focused on that path. Have a Predator with a couple of Hellfires on call if the bad guys try to move beyond the pass and cross bare rock. Make crossing the Afghan/pak border suicide for the taliban. It can be done. It just takes a strong will and a deaf ear. |
Posted by: Old Patriot 2008-07-09 13:31 |
#1 The militants use that country's lawless border areas as a base for staging their attacks against Afghan and foreign troops here. Well, then, take your best Afghan troops and give the Pakies a return visit. Think Northwest Passage. Just skip the head trophies. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-07-09 09:35 |