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Home Front: WoT
Marine moms, dads, often drop out of boot camp
2008-07-06
A fairly balanced article for the AP. They actually provide numbers and a little perspective from a Marine spokesman.
WASHINGTON (AP) - Franklin Smith had a wife and an infant son when he convinced a recruiter in Biloxi, Miss., that he wanted to be a Marine. For the recruiter, bringing in a family man like Smith was a dropout risk - even greater than recruiting someone with a criminal record, according to data obtained by The Associated Press.

In these days of long and repeated warfront tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, more than 10 percent of the male recruits who are married with one or more children, or are financially responsible for a dependent, don't even finish Marine boot camp, according to the Center for Naval Analysis. For women in similar circumstances, the dropout rate jumps to three in 10.

Three-year trends show that recruits who have family responsibilities or did not earn formal high school diplomas are most likely to wash out before they finish initial training. Those recruits also fail more often to complete their first terms of enlistment.
Posted by:Steve White

#6  Practically speaking, for married with children entering the Corps, they might consider a two-tier enlistment, not as Marines, but as Marine Support Personnel. Semi-uniform rear area types that are in better condition that GS types who work as desk job contractors.

The idea is that MCSPs work jobs that will free up Marines to go forward, yet are not as bad as civilian blobs, and do things The Marine Way. In turn, this would give the Corps the ability to create a "surge from inside", without harming the non-combat support roles in the rear.

During normal circumstances, a lot of Marines are occupied in the rear area, keeping the machine working. But when push comes to shove, they can grab field gear and go directly to the front. MCSPs would be useful in normal times, but especially good during combat.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-07-06 23:21  

#5  The only guys that dropped out when I went through in '91 were marshmellow loving, lazy soda suckers. A lot of people had kids (usually more than two) or were just out of high school. Only a couple that didn't fit that mold.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-07-06 22:25  

#4  Proc, we got foodstamps under Carter, and lived in "Substandard" housing.

Notice that the guy at the beginning of th article had to talk the recruiter into it, not the other way around.

Posted by: OldSpook   2008-07-06 16:38  

#3  I don’t recall being a junior enlisted and having a family was ever ‘easy’. Back in the last year of Carter most of the military lived in gentile poverty. If your troops were fortunate enough to be stateside you’d find most of the married young troops pulling food stamps for their families. If you were overseas you did your best to make sure everything was accounted for in the COLA surveys so that the kids could just make ends meet because DoD and DoA[griculture] hadn’t worked out how to get them food stamps yet. That last year we finally got the first real raise in six years because it was an election year issue. Ronnie would see to it we’d get two more the next year and we would not be treading water as deeply as we had been.

However, back then the troops and their families got free medical and dental. It wasn’t necessarily from the top 50 percent of the medical or dental school grads, but it was generally adequate. Today, the young troop is expected to fork over money to pay for his or her family’s care to one degree or another. When we had a million under arms somehow we could make it happen, but with half as much our Congress, regardless of which party has controlled the place, has the wherewithal to spend massively on earmarks, but will nickel and dime these guys and gals today.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-07-06 16:08  

#2  As a former active duty Marine (lo those many years ago), and with a son who is a Marine...I recall the words of OCS platoon sergeant: "You &@#^&#_@#, ()*&^%#$&&, ^@!($+$(#)$, son of a %&^@%#&^%@& 3rd lieutenant!!!! You have no wife. You are married to The Corps!!!!!"
Posted by: anymouse   2008-07-06 15:13  

#1  common sense, plus trying to support a family on the low pay is tough, especially in high rent or home price areas like San Diego
Posted by: Frank G   2008-07-06 15:09  

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