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India-Pakistan
Four Pakistani soldiers killed by jihadis on LoC
2008-06-20
Indian counter-infiltration action may have precipitated a clash between a jihadist group and a Pakistan army unit, which left four of its soldiers dead and three more injured.
Tusk, tusk ...
Speaking to journalists in Islamabad on Thursday a Pakistan army spokesperson said the troops died in a clash near the town of Hajira, east of the Line of Control, in the district of Poonch, with “unknown miscreants.” He offered no explanation of how the fighting had broken out.

However, highly-placed Indian military sources stationed in the area told The Hindu that the deaths were most likely the outcome of an accidental clash between Pakistani troops and a jihadist group. Soldiers from the 8 Gurkha RiflesÂ’ 2nd Battalion, stationed in the Krishna Ghati sector of the LoC, reported seeing movement along the LoC at 11.30 a.m. Suspecting that an infiltration attempt was under way, the troops fired warning shots. Fire was returned from the Pakistani side of the LoC. The sources said sporadic exchanges of fire continued in the area, which lies due east of Hajira, until 4.30 p.m.

Indian troops reported seeing two bodies lying near the LoC, but failed to locate either during searches in the evening.

A senior army official said the clash most likely began when the retreating jihadists ran into a Pakistan army patrol. “In the fog of the fighting,” he said, “it is possible the jihadis mistook the Pakistani army troops for an Indian ambush, or the other way around.”
So they never got the professional courtesy they should have ...
Members of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Jaish-e-Mohammad and the al-Badr have staged repeated infiltration attempts this summer along the LoC, often using Pakistan army posts as logistical bases.

Last month, a soldier of the 8 Gurkha Rifles was killed after jihadists shelled an Indian forward post near Salhotri village, between Krishna Ghati and Mendhar. Jawashwar Lami Chhame, a Nepali national serving in the Indian Army, was killed.

The fighting — one of nine clashes involving jihadist groups that have taken place on the LoC this year — came days after Indian troops interdicted an infiltrating group on the Tarkundi Gali pass. A militant was killed.

Pakistan military spokesperson Major-General Athar Abbas confirmed that the soldiers’ deaths were not caused by Indian military action. “The fire was not from the Indian bunkers,” he said.
Posted by:Fred

#3  Members of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Jaish-e-Mohammad and the al-Badr have staged repeated infiltration attempts this summer along the LoC, often using Pakistan army posts as logistical bases.

And with that sentence we have yet another example of "western" media either unable, unwilling, or unknowingly accepting the enemies terms of debate - and in the process confusing and undermining the facts needed to understand the necessary response. I only quote "western" since this is from the self-described India's national newspaper, but for practical purposes confronting a common enemy.

Who uses army posts as logistical bases other than an army? How does it NOT insult common sense to in any way distinguish "the Members" from the "Pakistan army"? Is there any known instance of a military unit "using" another military's bases, other than under agreement or treaty or, contra, by conquest and capture?

The headline and story should cover "friendly fire claims Pakistan military casualties - Gurkhas involved."
Posted by: Harcourt Jush7795   2008-06-20 23:29  

#2  Ramon and the Baxters, Pt II
Posted by: Frank G   2008-06-20 18:21  

#1  Sounds like Ye Olde Sneak Down the Middle and Shoot at Both Sides Trick...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-06-20 16:41  

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