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| Dutch Cartoonist Arrested For Insuling Muslims In 2005 - Desperate Dhimmis | ||
| 2008-05-17 | ||
The arrest took place last Tuesday. The well-known stand-up comedian Hans Teeuwen, a friend of Nekschot, said on TV programme Pauw en Witteman that around 10 police dragged the cartoonist out of his home in Amsterdam in a brutal manner. His computer and telephone were seized, according to a furious Teeuwen. The Public Prosecutor's Office (OM) in Amsterdam confirmed that Nekschot ('Neck Shot') was arrested for the publication of cartoons that are discriminatory against Muslims and people of darker skin. The cartoonist was held for about a day and a half and interrogated twice. The OM still has to decide whether he will actually be prosecuted.
Hirsch Ballin said Friday the arrest was only now carried out because Nekschot's identity was not known to the OM before. According to Geenstijl.nl website, this is nonsense because internet providers must provide the details of operators of websites they host if the OM asks for this as part of a criminal investigation. The OM did not bother to make such a request before, but Hirsch Ballin apparently now wants headlines such as 'Cartoonist Arrested in The Netherlands' to be send into the world to improve tense relations with Arab countries, Geenstijl suggested. Centre-left D66 MP Boris van der Ham has requested Justice Minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin for clarification. The arrest raises "many questions about freedom of speech," according to Van der Ham. Socialist Party (SP) MP Jan de Wit also finds it very strange that the cartoonist was "arrested in his bed for a cartoon from 2005." Freedom of expression "means that people must be able to draw and say whatever they want." The conservatives (VVD) were also very critical. The government parties did not want to use hard words. Labour (PvdA) MP Ton Heerts did say that "prosecuting a cartoonist is going pretty far." But the Christian democrats (CDA) and ChristenUnie said the OM probably has good reasons for its way of operating. Cartoonists, comics and columnists have more freedom of expression than other citizens, according to jurisprudence. This is due to the form - artistic or satirical - they choose for their argument. Party for Freedom (PVV) leader Geert Wilders is accusing the OM in Amsterdam, which gave the police the order for the arrest, of "dictatorial tendencies." Wilders said Friday he cannot remember a cartoonist ever being arrested anywhere in the West. He wants to call Hirsch Ballin to account Tuesday during the weekly question hour in the Lower House. The arrest followed an investigation of the work of Nekschot, after a complaint was made against him in 2005 by Abdul Jabbar van de Ven. This Dutch convert to Islam calls himself an Imam. After the murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh, he said on TV he would thank Allah if he could arrange for Geert Wilders to die, "for example of cancer". Jabbar van de Ven made the complaint to the National Discrimination Expertise Centre (LECD). This complaint was passed on to the OM. According to Geenstijl.nl, Paul Velleman, the prosecutor who gave the order for the cartoonist's arrest, is also the head of the LECD. Gregorius Nekschot publishes mainly on the Internet, but also produced a book titled 'Nekschot: Sick jokes.' Theo van Gogh, assassinated by a Muslim terrorist in 2004, gave space on his website to the work of Nekschot. According to Teeuwen, the cartoonist was intimidated by one of the officers during his arrest, who apparently said that his real surname would be made public. "A pretty intimidating remark." Precisely because of the threat of radical Muslims, Nekschot is very cautious about who he gives his real name to, said Teeuwen. Prosecutor Paul Velleman is also leading the OM team that is investigating whether Wilders should be prosecuted for discrimination, according to Geenstijl.nl. In 2005, Velleman decided that the radical E Tawheed mosque in Amsterdam could not be prosecuted for selling books in which calls were made for throwing homosexuals from apartment buildings head-first. | ||
| Posted by:Anonymoose |
| #12 Many Jews have stated that if every Jewish family in Germany had met the SS at the door with a 9mm pistol and shot the first one through, the SS would soon have lost their taste for arresting Jews. Serious Question, were there more jews, or more Nazis? That wouldn't work if the Nazis were more numerous. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-05-17 23:06 |
| #11 Which begs the question. How does one properly insult the pedophile for profit's pagan piggy goddess allah. |
| Posted by: Icerigger 2008-05-17 21:59 |
| #10 What is different from 2005? Oil price manipulation has increased Arab Muslim power. |
| Posted by: McZoid 2008-05-17 13:38 |
| #9 http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3865 |
| Posted by: Muggsy Thregum7456 2008-05-17 09:26 |
| #8 The future is here. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2008-05-17 07:45 |
| #7 Actually, Nimble Spemble, I've seen statistics that the historical level of Jewish out-conversion, generally with marriage, is 25%, rising to 50% when times are very good or very bad. But nowadays there is a steady trickle of in-conversions and mixed marriage couples choosing to rear their children as Jews. There is a traditional Jewish fear that ours will be the last generation of the Jewish people. It hasn't happened yet, though. My maternal grandfather was not arrested by the SS the first time they came for him, because he had a pair of his [big, German] hunting dogs lolling about his office. By the time they came back for him, he'd done a runner across the Dutch border. I don't disagree with the house-gun philosophy though -- not every household has room for a pack of hunting dogs. ;-) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-05-17 07:23 |
| #6 We are the Great Satan because we tolerate and assimilate. We kill them with kindness and destroy their religion. More to the immediate point, they kill us with our kindness. |
| Posted by: Sninert Black9312 2008-05-17 05:46 |
| #5 don't be so sure that it won't happen here. |
| Posted by: Sninert Black9312 2008-05-17 05:10 |
| #4 The Netherlands will be the first European country with Sharia it looks like. Remember what one of their ministers said some time ago.... "In a bizarre statement made today, the Netherlands' Justice Minister, Piet Hein Donner, has suggested that Sharia law could become possible via democratic procedures." . |
| Posted by: Gladio 2008-05-17 03:22 |
| #3 The Dutch and the Euros in general have made a different bed than we. They have many more recent immigrants than we, proportionately, and they have not assimilated at all. We need to continue to assimilate the vast majorityand prosecute the Lackawana 6 types individually. We are the Great Satan because we tolerate and assimilate. We kill them with kindness and destroy their religion. And we have done so with every immigrant group except the Amish and the Hutterites. And even the Amish we encroach on and make them run away to new fertile farmland. Look at Commentary. Every year they have an article about how America is destroying Judaism through intermarriage. A problem they have never had to face before. The Euro type segregation and discrimination is what Mohammedans thrive on. They've been fighting it at their boundaries for centuries and they have the tactics down. But the appeal of America and its culture to their youth is insidious and something they cannot deal with. So the ones who come to America deserve to be treated like Americans, including the ones in the slammer when they earn it. The ones overseas? That's why we have the Marines. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-05-16 18:56 |
| #2 You know, I'm beginning to think it's time for everyone who regularly reads this blog to seriously start thinking about just exactly what they would personally do in a case like this one. Many Jews have stated that if every Jewish family in Germany had met the SS at the door with a 9mm pistol and shot the first one through, the SS would soon have lost their taste for arresting Jews. What I think is very clear from this example is that the Muslims have no qualms whatsoever about threatening violence to the Dutch society. As a consequence, they've intimidated the Dutch government into conciliating them at the expense of Dutch non-Muslims. The lesson I draw from this is that the Dutch Government will bend to the threat of violence. Obviously then, the only way to make them stop discriminating in favor of Muslims is for non-Muslims to act violently when they do so. I really don't think such responses are very far off. I think life is going to become very difficult for the Dutch police in the near future as they get caught between enforcing the edicts of a dhimmi judiciary and the anger of their non-Muslim fellow citizens. |
| Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 2008-05-16 18:35 |
| #1 time for a welcome public "debate". Arm yourselves, free Dutch!! |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-05-16 17:44 |