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2008-05-13 | |||||
WASHINGTON -- The number of Americans being secretly wiretapped or having their financial and other records reviewed by the government has continued to increase as officials aggressively use powers approved after the Sept. 11 attacks. But the number of terrorism prosecutions ending up in court -- one measure of the effectiveness of such sleuthing -- has continued to decline, in some cases precipitously. The trends, visible in new government data and a private analysis of Justice Department records, are worrisome to civil liberties groups and some legal scholars. They say it is further evidence that the government has compromised the privacy rights of ordinary citizens without much to show for it.
These concerns come as the Bush administration has been seeking to expand its ability to gather intelligence without prior court approval. It has asked Congress for amendments to the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to make it clear that eavesdropping on foreign telecommunications signals routed through the U.S. does not require a warrant.
Although legal experts say they would not necessarily expect the number of prosecutions to rise along with the stepped-up surveillance, there are few other good ways to measure how well the government is progressing in keeping the country safe. "How does one measure the success? The short answer is we aren't in a great position to know," said Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor. With prosecutions declining, he said, the public is left with imperfect and possibly misleading ways to gauge progress in the Bush administration's war on terrorism -- such as the number of secret warrants the government issues or the number of agents it assigns to terrorism cases. "These are the only tracks in the snow left by terrorism investigations, if there are no more counter-terrorism prosecutions," Richman said. "This is why, more than ever, there is a pressing need for congressional oversight, for accountability at the top of the [Justice] department, and for public confidence in the department."
But Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman, said statistics on court-approved FISA applications and statistics on criminal prosecution were "apples and oranges." "There are a variety of factors that may account for the increase in court-approved FISA applications since 9/11," he said. Boyd said he could not comment on those factors, but said, "It is important to remember that surveillance under FISA is authorized by an independent court and used carefully and judiciously to protect the country from national security threats." | |||||
Posted by:Steve White |
#6 Moose, I agree with that, but the conflation of "domestic" with communications that have no terminal point in the US was a major error by the courts in interpreting FISA and the ability of the NSA and other intelligence agencies to work, and a major error for the Bush administration for not challenging it to get that poor and possibly unconstitutional decision revoked. What troubles me even more are the over-use of SWAT and military tactics on violent midnight raids based off of "tips" for drug crimes. It seems there isnt a week that goes by without someone innocent being terrorized and possibly shot by the police in the US on one fo these stupid violent "raids" that is mistargeted, whether due to police errors or simply a lying informant. |
Posted by: OldSpook 2008-05-13 12:00 |
#5 Actually, they may have a point. Terrorist problems are few and far between in the US, and few police authorities have anything to do with them in their job description. This means that most police will immediately want to apply new law enforcement rules to non-terrorism related criminal investigations. In routine police business, there is no reason for a warrantless search unless the police hear screaming or gunfire and must react immediately. Even in the middle of the WoT, does not give the police the right to throw out the Bill of Rights for the other 99.99999% of what they do. |
Posted by: Anonymoose 2008-05-13 11:23 |
#4 And then goes on to say there aren't "enough" prosecutions? Probably the result of these intercepts is TARGETING, as in "Hello Mr Hellfire Missile", overseas. A much preferable result, I think, instead of having liberal lawyers and judges muck up the works. |
Posted by: DarthVader 2008-05-13 09:26 |
#3 This moron conflates monitoring of communications with BOTH terminals outside the US whcih happen to pass through a US property as "domestic" spying. And then goes on to say there aren't "enough" prosecutions? Well f'ing DUH! Probably the result of these intercepts is TARGETING, as in "Hello Mr Hellfire Missile", overseas. |
Posted by: OldSpook 2008-05-13 09:05 |
#2 The number of Americans being secretly wiretapped or having their financial and other records reviewed by the government has continued to increase as officials aggressively use powers approved after the Sept. 11 attacks. But the number of terrorism prosecutions ending up in court -- one measure of the effectiveness of such sleuthing -- has continued to decline, in some cases precipitously. Just take out terrorism and substitute any other conventional crime and the description works just as well. Focus law enforcement resources and direction and after hammering a number of miscreants, the crime rate drops. The author probably doesn't grasp the cause>effect relationship between higher incarceration rates and drops in crime either. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-05-13 08:30 |
#1 REDDIT Op-Ed > AMERICA IS A SOCIALIST COUNTRY NOW, thanks to Dubya??? |
Posted by: JosephMendiola 2008-05-13 00:07 |