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Afghanistan
France To Send 1,000 More Troops to Afghanistan
2008-03-22
Victor Laszlo: Welcome back to the fight.
President Sarkozy of France will tell Gordon Brown next week that France plans to send an extra 1,000 soldiers to Afghanistan to bolster the battle against the Taleban. Senior ministers have told The Times that Mr Sarkozy wants to underline his commitment to the alliance during his state visit to Britain. The Ministry of Defence has made a working assumption that President Sarkozy will announce a deployment of "slightly more than 1,000 troops to the eastern region", one said.

France already has 1,900 soldiers in Afghanistan. President Sarkozy hinted at stepping up his engagement during a surprise visit shortly before Christmas. "There is a war going on here, a war against terrorism, against fanaticism, that we cannot and will not lose," he said at the time.
Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
French diplomatic sources in London insisted last night that no final decision had been made.
"We hope to talk this maniac out of it."
President Sarkozy is said to be still deciding whether the extra troops should be sent to the south to fight alongside the Canadians or east to the border with Pakistan. In the latter scenario, the presence of French troops would allow the US troops currently policing the border to be sent south.
The operative word, I trust, is "fight."
Canada, which has 2,500 troops operating in Kandahar province in the south, had said that it would pull out next year unless another Nato country offered to send at least 1,000 soldiers to back them up.
Remember Dieppe.
However, even the United States, which has criticised its European allies for failing to come up with more combat units, has some sympathisers within its ranks for Europe's difficulties.
Huh?
Victoria Nuland, the US Ambassador to Nato, told The Times in an exclusive interview: "One of the problems is that European defence budgets are going down. When you look at the alliance, you don't see 30,000 troops sitting in a parking lot with nothing to do and waiting to be sent somewhere."
I blame Bush.
There's a cure for this ...
The Americans are in the process of sending 2,200 Marines to the south. They will be used in special operations along the border and in places such as Musa Qala in Helmand. Another 1,000 US Marines will embed with the Afghan police. The Marines will be fully supported and have their own fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters.
Speaking of which, perhaps JFM or A5089 could enlighten us on how the new French force will be equipped.
"But it's tough on the Marines," Mrs Nuland said. "This is the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit. It's an enormous sacrifice for them. They have already been to Iraq twice and they should be having a rest. We're asking a lot of the soldiers."
I believe the requisite observation is "Ms. Nuland, they're not soldiers, they're Marines."
By the way, the article is from the Times (of London) and the comments are worth a look if your blood pressure needs a boost.
Posted by:Matt

#14  You think this tweeked the diplos noses, wait'll they get a load of Sarkozy's comments on keeping their nukes (and subtly referencing the "Iranian issue").
Posted by: BA   2008-03-22 23:58  

#13  Payment for the Airbus deal.
Posted by: DK70   2008-03-22 21:51  

#12  
Too bad the French don't have the equivalent of the Italians Carabinieri, especially the Spec Ops ones like the 1st Rgt in Livorno.


Yes they have it is called Gendarmerie: a branch
of the French military who does police work in rural areas with subsidiary duties as MP. They have some armor but AFAIK no artillery. In 1940 Gendarmerie's armored units were engaged against the Germans. AFAIK they don't have a special forces regiment only a (very good) SWAT like unit.
Posted by: JFM   2008-03-22 17:34  

#11  Too bad the French don't have the equivalent of the Italians Carabinieri, especially the Spec Ops ones like the 1st Rgt in Livorno.

That's the type of militarized police force they need to let loose on the yoots.

Or the Carabinieri ROS (they were formed to take on the Mafia) - sic them on the "leaders".
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-03-22 16:39  

#10  We need them in Afghanistan. The French 'yout' problem also needs dealing with, but not by their military.
Posted by: lotp   2008-03-22 15:55  

#9  Post your troopies at home, when car burnings cease from lack of living "Youts" then come, and welcome.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-03-22 12:51  

#8  And now that the French are led by a Hungarian

During the elctoral campaign Sarkozy told to a woman: "You are not Morocan and I am not Hungarian we are both French".

BTW, Sarkozy has a (French) Jewish mother.
Posted by: JFM   2008-03-22 12:29  

#7  Even support troops will lift some of the burden off the US and are very welcome. The average French fight man is good. Leadership... not so much. But, many western nations have the same issue.

Either way, good to have you back France.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-03-22 12:02  

#6  France's problems have never been her troops. And now that the French are led by a Hungarian, they are headed in the right direction. Let's hope he stays in charge a long time.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-03-22 11:31  

#5  See a French Army or Legionnaire, buy them a drink.

They've finally been allowed to step up to the plate.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-03-22 11:03  

#4  We've been making fun of the eurines for a long time now, but once upon a time, the best or worst thing that could happen to you (depending on whose side you were on) was to encounter a French or Belgian paratrooper on patrol in Africa. I hope they can bring some of that to the 'stan...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2008-03-22 10:51  

#3  The reason the Euros have declining military budgets is because they no longer have the Russian bear at their door and unitl most recently, they've permitted the United States to bankroll the GWOT.

The reason is that the US guarantees their defence. It's time to get out of Nato. Let them defend them selves like grown-ups or live in submission like children.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-03-22 10:42  

#2  Victoria Nuland, the US Ambassador to Nato, told The Times in an exclusive interview: "One of the problems is that European defence budgets are going down. When you look at the alliance, you don't see 30,000 troops sitting in a parking lot with nothing to do and waiting to be sent somewhere."

Bravo to Sarko and the French! Damn the diplodink democracy for everybody moonbat and her troops in "parking lot" comment. The reason the Euros have declining military budgets is because they no longer have the Russian bear at their door and unitl most recently, they've permitted the United States to bankroll the GWOT.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-03-22 10:32  

#1  The French soldier, when well-led, will fight. I don't know if these will be Legionaires or French troops.

As a practical matter, having a unit of troops that is combat trained and experienced is not a bad thing for any nation.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2008-03-22 10:04  

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