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'I don't hate Muslims. I hate Islam,' says Holland's rising political star
2008-02-18
A TV addict with bleached hair who adores Maggie Thatcher and prefers kebabs to hamburgers, Geert Wilders has got nothing against Muslims. He just hates Islam. Or so he says. 'Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology,' says Wilders, a lanky Roman Catholic right-winger, 'the ideology of a retarded culture.'

The Dutch politician, who sees himself as heir to a recent string of assassinated or hounded mavericks who have turned Holland upside down, has been doing a crash course in Koranic study. Likening the Islamic sacred text to Hitler's Mein Kampf, he wants the 'fascist Koran' outlawed in Holland, the constitution rewritten to make that possible, all immigration from Muslim countries halted, Muslim immigrants paid to leave and all Muslim 'criminals' stripped of Dutch citizenship and deported 'back where they came from'. But he has nothing against Muslims. 'I have a problem with Islamic tradition, culture, ideology. Not with Muslim people.'

Wilders has been immersing himself in the suras and verse of seventh-century Arabia. The outcome of his scholarship, a short film, has Holland in a panic. He is just putting the finishing touches to the 10-minute film, he says, and talking to four TV channels about screening it.
Posted by:Fred

#15  JB8431...The Euros are up for a rude awakening. It does not matter that 80% of muslims just want to live in peace. That's probably close to the same percentage across most of the ME.

The problem stems from the fact that the other 20% are irrational, hate-filled, kool-aid drinking (I guess I could say Kos Kids, but I won't) jihadis. And that 20% will force the 80% to kneel or die. It's pretty simple. And that's my problem with the "silent majority" in islam. When push comes to shove they will turn Western society into the Magic Kingdom.
Posted by: anymouse   2008-02-18 20:39  

#14  Wilders is a brave man. Unfortunately, he is very much on his own. I've recently discussed Europe's problems with "youth" with a number of Europeans; I have yet to find one who was willing to place any culpability on Islam or Muslims. Most of them think the violence is the fault of Euro society for not letting these people be a part of it.

I didn't debate the issue; I was just trying to get a sense of their position. I came away with the idea there is a feeling of deep embarrassment among "enlightened" Euros that such things should be happening in Euroland. I also learned that, while there is this massive reluctance to place blame on anyone or anything other than Euro society, the individuals I spoke to were keenly aware that there were places and groups that it would personally be very wise to avoid.

Final analysis: for many Euros, it's impolite to acknowledge these issues. I was reminded of the section in "Watership Down" where the rabbits live in a well-fed, comfortable burrow on a farm--at the price of having random members of the community "harvested" by the farmer at his whim. Both situations were ugly and, like Adams' rabbits, the Euros work very hard at pretending the danger either isn't really there or is something different than it actually is.
Posted by: Jomosing Bluetooth8431   2008-02-18 17:21  

#13  Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

It is possible. It doesn't mean we have to let them cut our heads off. Just give 'em a little tough love, is all. How tough the love is may vary from case to case. Who knows? After a few more centuries they might calm down.

But you have to give Wilders credit. He recognizes the threat which is, unfortunately, more than we say about a lot of other politicians and he's doing something about it.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2008-02-18 15:27  

#12  Yeah...somebody is going to pop his cap.
Posted by: anymouse   2008-02-18 13:36  

#11  Reason #1 why the fascist left loves Islam:

They are the same ideology
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-02-18 12:57  

#10  Shot by a leftie in solidarity with fascism in 5...4...3...
Posted by: ebrown2   2008-02-18 10:00  

#9  Between the people who voted for the Nazis there were some who helped the old ladies croosing the street, donated their blood and even, even there is at least one case of a middle ranked party member who saved Jews (I am not sure but I think he is Just of Nations). But this was despite the evil and hate filled ideology who was Nazism.

In the same vein I know Muslims, or more exactly people who were born Muslims: they aren't of the hard core variety) who are good people. But this is despite Islam. So I don't see the contadiction.
Posted by: JFM   2008-02-18 09:03  

#8  Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology, the ideology of a retarded culture.

Amen!

A bunch of 7th century retards that are trying to get nuclear weapons.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-02-18 08:54  

#7  Geert Wilders has got nothing against Cairn Terriers Muslims. He just hates.... dogs Islam.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-02-18 06:07  

#6  Geert Wilders is not the cause of violence. It makes mulims look like brainless automatons.

Yet more examples of the soft-racism of the left.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-02-18 05:42  

#5  Hmm. Let's see - what would they be saying if a left-wing politican made a movie that others found insulting to their religion?

Oh, wait, they do that regularly, and nothing happens.
Posted by: gromky   2008-02-18 05:41  

#4  
I just LOVE his hair! Hate the playa and the game. No playa, no game.

Hate Islam, hate mooslims.
Posted by: Black Bart Flineper8230   2008-02-18 05:26  

#3  Is this the Dutch equivalent of "I support the troops but hate the war"?

Unless he thinks Islam can be reformed in a way that prevents another outbreak like this, I'll be the hates Muslims but is afraid to say it.
Posted by: gorb   2008-02-18 03:24  

#2  "Don't hate the playa, hate the game."
Posted by: Seafarious   2008-02-18 01:55  

#1  What a sensible man. Too bad no American politician has Wilders' common sense, quest for knowledge or courage.
Posted by: ed   2008-02-18 01:51  

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