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Fifth Column
Bezerkeley - Blow by Blow account between Blue Star Mothers and Code Pink
2008-02-17
By 6:00 a.m., things began to heat up and get downright ugly.

Two Blue Star moms were threatened with violence and one was shoved by a Code Pink lady, and when the mom called the Berkeley police for help, they hung up on her. Another call to the police was made by someone else with the same response.

Melanie Morgan, spokeswoman for Move America Forward, was in the middle of her morning KSFO radio program, called in from the scene in Berkeley. She told me yesterday that she honestly could not believe what was happening, and might not have believed it if she had not seen it with her own eyes.

The scene she encountered was one of "near mayhem," she told me. Cursing, shouting, profanities being hurled at moms and dads waving small American flags in support of our armed services.

Then high school students showed up. The students donned yellow and black "Palestinian" masks and t-shirts emblazoned with the charming slogan: "F*** Bush." Riding skateboards, they rammed into Move America Forward and Blue Star Families' peaceful protest. Some of the teens grabbed American flags from the hands of soldiers' moms and dads, and set them afire right in front of the startled parents. Police did nothing.

When I spoke today with Mark Coplan, Director of the Public Information Office for the Berkeley Unified School District, he was just as upset about the teen participation as was Melanie Morgan. These teens, he said, were recruited by World Can't Wait to "disrupt the peaceful protest."

According to Mr. Coplan, this teen recruitment has been a common strategy of World Can't Wait agitators, who have clashed with school authorities repeatedly in the past. Mr. Coplan was onsite at the demonstration himself, to make sure that students and teachers who had permission to observe the demonstration from a distance were not breaking the district's admonitions. He told me that he himself heard World Can't Wait demonstrators tell the students they had brought that they "did not have to listen to or obey any police instructions," that "they were participating in democracy at work," and that he personally saw older adults using teens as shields to harass and shove the peaceful counter-demonstrators.

World Can't Wait is an organization started in 2005 to actively thwart the American war effort. Its founder, Charles Clark Kissinger, is a Maoist and longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party, who has stated his intention to organize "people living in the United States to take responsibility to stop the whole disastrous course led by the Bush administration." By "disastrous course" he means the war, specifically.

And of course, Code Pink's most visible spokesperson, Medea Benjamin, says her idea of heaven on earth is Castro's Cuba. Benjamin, readers may remember, is the patriotic American who spearheaded the effort in 2004 to hand over $600,000 in cash and supplies to the terrorist "insurgents" in Fallujah, Iraq. Why isn't that an act of treason? I must be too unsophisticated to understand.

So, we shouldn't be surprised when shameful un-American tactics are used by these people, as they were Tuesday in Berkeley.

But when a civil authority, such as the Berkeley Police, stand by while people are abridging the First Amendment rights of other citizens, then there is a huge problem.

Move America Forward has an attorney. He has written a formal protest letter to the City of Berkeley, citing numerous infractions of his client's First Amendment Rights, with the appearance of help from the police, and a lawsuit against the city is being considered.

Even though the Berkeley City Council went through the motions Tuesday night, listened to both sides of the Marine debate, and agreed to soften the language of its request to the Marines to vacate, not much has changed.

Code Pink gets to keep their parking space next to the recruiting center. They get to keep their cost-free permit to continue their agitating activities. And since Code Pink has posted a photo of Berkeley's mayor, Tom Bates, sporting a nauseatingly pink beret while he himself demonstrates with Code Pink at the recruitment office, I really don't think Berkeley has gotten the message.
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#18  WCW - RICO for intimidation?
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-02-17 23:00  

#17  Seems to me that the problem was the police. $93,000 in overtime for a bunch of people that formed useless lines that people could just walk around and then they did nothing to protect the protestors from a small group of snot-nose teens who were given a green light to act bratty by WCW organizers.

What a waste of money.
Posted by: Grailing and Tenille1838   2008-02-17 22:17  

#16  museum wax on "falling" items is a plus - helps stickem to the shelves, etc., without damage
Posted by: Frank G   2008-02-17 18:39  

#15  Well, the house is on bedrock at the top of a hill, which is a plus. However, it's 55 years old and our inspection suggested it needs better bolting to the rock ... we hope to renovate and expand it in the future. (Our adult daughter collapsed with what is now clearly a longterm disabling heath condition a few years ago so we hope to upgrade the home and retire there so that she will have family in the area when we're gone.)

As I recall, the house made it okay through the 89 quake with just a few cracks and some shattered china. Am hoping that track record continues. ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2008-02-17 18:23  

#14  lotp - single-family homes are the most forgiving (i.e.: least weight in the inversed pendulum effect - especially if you don't have concrete tile roofs) in earthquakes. The stucco/plaster will crack - it's supposed to (it dissipates energy). In a a big quake, the concerns are a) unreinforced masonry commercial buildings, older commercial, older multifamily, and b) all of the above with gas fires
Posted by: Frank G   2008-02-17 17:53  

#13  Bobby, Mr. Lotp's family home is a couple towns north of Berzerkly, so we should be okay - unless Sacramento steps in. (ugh)
Posted by: lotp   2008-02-17 17:17  

#12  I send 'em all the same e-mail, sayin' there stupid - in a respectful way, of course.

Take away ALL the Federal and State money, and let the sane ones move out. And here's hoping Toledo fails to pass the tax, and blames the Mayor.

If that were to happen, however, it might impact lotp's real estate....
Posted by: Bobby   2008-02-17 16:50  

#11  Rex - IIUC, the vote was 7-2 and Worthington's email said initial press reports (8-1) were wrong for the first voting (last month). I do know that Worthington's done the right things since then, although I obviously have no insight on motivation, nor real info on previous voting/position history (name is Kris, and I don't even know if that's a man or woman). I would only say that Worthington doesn't appear to be one that needs "attention" :-)
Posted by: Frank G   2008-02-17 14:53  

#10  I realize that this isn't about Marine recruiting anymore, but throughout this controversy I've had a hard time imagining the type of young man or woman who would be motivated and patriotic enough to consider joining the Marines in time of war, but then would be deterred from doing so by people like Medea Benjamin. The Marines couldn't buy PR like this.
Posted by: Matt   2008-02-17 14:50  

#9  Frank G... if Worthington has indeed been opposed to this lunacy that's great, and I would need to correct myself on that regards. The info I have on the intial vote shows only one vote in opposition, that of Wozniak. My information could very well be wrong. Thanks in advance for any clarification.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2008-02-17 14:33  

#8  Heyas lotp...always good to see a fellow Bay Area-ite. My uncle is UC Berkeley alumnus, class of '68 no less but no moonbat.

In regards to the City Council, Mr Wozniak is the only member that I'm aware of to have voted no on both resolutions from the get go..and he has received my thanks. None of the other council members who have been on the receiving end of my respectfully written bile have responded. Please note, there is also an initiative being put forth in CA State Legislature to strip Berkeley of $3 million in transportation funds - the sponsor's name escapes me at the moment. I'm sorry to say but this resolution also has my support and I'm actively involved in creating greater grassroots support. Berkeley must be made to feel real pain. My only concern is that their needs to be some parallel education regarding World Can't Wait and Code Pink. It seems that Mr. Coplan has already received his...and is probably a good place to starte. If it's possible to strip away community support for these groups - that would be the best answer. Kick out the Stalinist/Maoist groups and then stop electing freaking moonbats to represent the city.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2008-02-17 14:29  

#7  actually, Worthington and Wozniak have not supported the proposals, and have sent very courteous reply emails. They don't need vitriol, they appear to be doing the right thing
Posted by: Frank G   2008-02-17 13:50  

#6  Thanks, Bobby. And ditto that on the email.
Posted by: lotp   2008-02-17 13:44  

#5  O.K., lotp, I won't pray for an earthquake. On the other hand, I won't pray that geology be suspended until the Berkeley children grow up.

And I will once again write to the juvinille delinquents -

mayor@ci.berkeley.ca.us, lmaio@ci.berkeley.ca.us, dmoore@ci.berkeley.ca.us, manderson@ci.berkeley.ca.us, spring@ci.berkeley.ca.us, lcapitelli@ci.berkeley.ca.us, olds@ci.berkeley.ca.us, kworthington@ci.berkeley.ca.us, gwozniak@ci.berkeley.ca.us

As well as contactSenator DeMint.
Posted by: Bobby   2008-02-17 13:36  

#4  It's not clear to me how much leverage a boycott would have.

The main tax revenues for the town are, as the article notes, luxury car dealers whose customers are your typical Bay area wealthy liberals. The mom and pop boutiques and restaurants aren't vulnerable. Chain stores might be, if enough of a stink were made, but again they have multiyear leases and MBAs doing cold number crunching.

I suppose going after suppliers might work a little ... refuse to bid on local business at good rates. But the town is propped up so much by the university that there isn't a real economy to hit. Nor much building going on there, it's all heavily in-filled already.

Full disclosure: we own a house north of Berkeley, Mr. Lotp's boyhood home, which we are currently renting. I'm all for punishing the B, but we would be grateful if your prayers didn't extend to earthquakes and similar disasters, given that that home will (we hope) provide some security for us and our daughter in coming years.

Thanks! ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2008-02-17 12:44  

#3  Berkeley - proof that Tourettes and Munchausen syndromes can be found concurrently in the same population base. I blame the "Summer of Love".
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-02-17 12:22  

#2  There's a good post over at floppingaces.net about what appears to be a rather substantial economic boycott going on against businesses in Berkeley.
Posted by: crosspatch   2008-02-17 11:36  

#1  Sounds to me like we need to pull all Law Enforcement and Public Education Federal Funds from Berkley (and not just a bit of earmarks) - since they obviously are not being used for actual Law Enforcement or Education.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2008-02-17 11:03  

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