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| EU furiousTM as US wants extra data on all air passengers |
| 2008-02-11 |
| The US administration is pressing the 27 governments of the European Union to sign up for a range of new security measures for transatlantic travel, including allowing armed guards on all flights from Europe to America by US airlines. The demand to put armed air marshals on to the flights is part of a travel clampdown by the Bush administration that officials in Brussels described as "blackmail" and "troublesome", and could see west Europeans and Britons required to have US visas if their governments balk at Washington's requirements. According to a US document being circulated for signature in European capitals, EU states would also need to supply personal data on all air passengers overflying but not landing in the US in order to gain or retain visa-free travel to America, senior EU officials said. |
| Posted by:gorb |
| #14 You'd find pretty much the same discussion in Western Europe about Asia. But not many American companies build new factories in Europe, quite a few European companies build them in the U.S. Alabama for example. But let's face it. Direct your anger at Asia, not Europe. Exporting to the U.S. at $1.50 to the Euro is hard work, even without tariffs. |
| Posted by: Pearl Shuck3997 2008-02-11 22:48 |
| #13 We need to look where the bad guys are. I agree. Then take action. You'd be surprised how any Americans are turned off by the current trading system. The primary beneficiaries are the money movers who by importing make vast fortunes w/o taking the risk of those who build factories and making products. The primary losers are the former $25/hour middle class factory workers now making $8/hour in retail. The vast majority of those I know are angry at the wide open US market while the rest of world employ high tariffs or non-tariff restrictions. It's well past time to take care of our own. |
| Posted by: ed 2008-02-11 22:25 |
| #12 It's not about "giving in", it's about what makes sense and what does not. HS is under the mistaken impression that you just need enough data and you'll sort out the rest. Won't happen. You'll just drown in irrelevant data. We need to look where the bad guys are. Starting with the mosques, the madrassas, the online meeting places. And ed, you'd be the first American to want LESS trade. |
| Posted by: Pearl Shuck3997 2008-02-11 22:14 |
| #11 On both sides of the Atlantic, when it comes to airport workers. And many measures to ensure passenger screnings are just ludicrous. Confiscate the shampoo and the tweezers, and what do you find on board? Champagne bottles. |
| Posted by: Pearl Shuck3997 2008-02-11 22:07 |
| #10 One does not preclude the other. As far as the US giving in, you are under the mistaken impression Americans want more transatlantic travel. Less contact and equalized trade at a lower level is just fine with most Americans. |
| Posted by: ed 2008-02-11 22:02 |
| #9 Mostly miss... thanks norman |
| Posted by: Abu do you love 2008-02-11 21:53 |
| #8 I've seen heaps of Pakistani airport workers in Dallas or Chicago. Look closer to home. Airport security in the U.S. is still hit and miss. |
| Posted by: Pearl Shuck3997 2008-02-11 21:23 |
| #7 Crap. Messed up the html. |
| Posted by: ed 2008-02-11 18:47 |
| #6 who do not fly at all You must mean those who enter the secure section of the airport. I am ambivalent to that. Yes they could pass explosives or weapons to take over a flight, but I would think there is a much greater chance with the large numbers of muzzie airport workers doing that (and there have been a LOT of them each time I have flown into W. European airports). Like I said, our airspace, our rules. You are welcome to follow those rules or stay out. |
| Posted by: ed 2008-02-11 18:46 |
| #5 Violate your airspace? Are you kidding? You are also asking data from people who do not fly at all. |
| Posted by: Pearl Shuck3997 2008-02-11 18:34 |
| #4 No just those that violate our airspace. |
| Posted by: ed 2008-02-11 18:27 |
| #3 Not quite. You are asking data from people who do not even enter the U.S. |
| Posted by: Pearl Shuck3997 2008-02-11 18:05 |
| #2 The legal foundation, for those interested in Euro-Dweeb's complaint, is "It's our goddamned country and we'll ask for any info we want. Don't like it? Then stay the hell out." I'm not a lawyer, by the way. |
| Posted by: mojo 2008-02-11 15:41 |
| #1 Its simple really, either you provide the data or you can go home. we should just enlarge the detention area at the major airports. |
| Posted by: USN,Ret. 2008-02-11 14:42 |