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Home Front: Culture Wars
Battle Royal Brewing for Berkeley Council Meeting
2008-02-11
Barbara -- Tuesday night might be popcorn night! Folks comin'from near and far
If you want to get a seat at Tuesday night's Berkeley City Council meeting, you better start lining up now. And you might want to bring earplugs. And a flak jacket.

Hundreds of protesters from across the country and the political spectrum are expected to descend on City Hall with bullhorns, drums, banners and plenty of vitriol in anticipation of the City Council's debate over the Marines' recruiting station in town.

The ruckus started last week when the council voted to send a letter to the Marines, calling them "unwanted intruders" for opening the recruiting center on Shattuck Avenue last year. At the same time, the council granted Code Pink a parking space and a sound permit to make it easier for the peace group to conduct protests outside the center.

On Monday, Councilwomen Betty Olds and Laurie Capitelli introduced an item for this week's meeting, asking the city to retract its statements about the Marines and clarify that the city is against the war, not against the armed forces.

"We're starting to get people coming in from all over the U.S.," said Catherine Moy, executive director of Move America Forward, one of several pro-military groups planning an all-day protest Tuesday at Maudelle Shirek City Hall. "People are pretty upset. We want to avoid clashes, but it could be really, really big. We don't really know what's going to happen."

Peace groups, disgusted that the council would cave in to pressure from the pro-military groups, plan to host their own rally, an "emergency 24-hour peace-in vigil," complete with singing, drums and dialogue.

"We want to protect our city from the onslaught of the right wing," said Code Pink spokeswoman Zanne Joi. "We're facing people who are willing to kill or send other people's children to kill to get what they want. We understand the reality of that, and we're prepared to face that in a nonviolent way."

The city's statement about the Marines immediately ignited an uproar from conservative, pro-military and pro-war factions around the country. A South Carolina senator introduced a bill rescinding $2 million in federal funding for Berkeley. The Semper Fi Act of 2008 would transfer Berkeley's money to the Marine Corps.

City officials were deluged with hundreds of irate e-mails, some containing death threats. Moy said her group got so many e-mails its Web site crashed.

Both sides will be protesting at Tuesday's meeting. Code Pink and its allies plan to camp out on the lawn at City Hall beginning at 7 p.m. Monday, while Move America Forward, the American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars and other pro-military groups plan to rally at Martin Luther King Jr. Park across the street starting at 5 a.m. Tuesday.

"Maybe we should do a reality TV episode," said Mayor Tom Bates. "But in some ways it's good we're debating the war. Iraq has sort of been pushed aside lately because of the economy. The trick, though, is to focus the debate on the right issues."

More police, fire and paramedics will be working that night, and the city is holding a meeting Monday afternoon with representatives from all the protest groups to establish the ground rules.

"We want to ensure the safety of the public, city staff and City Council," said Deputy City Manager Christine Daniel. "We expect that everyone will protest peacefully, but we want to be safe."

The city has not yet decided whether to move the meeting to a larger room or install metal detectors.

The council plans to start the Marines debate at 9 p.m. Members of the public can address the council for one minute each, but the comment period can continue indefinitely. Officials expect a long night.

On Fourth Street Friday morning, nearly everyone had an opinion about the issue. And in typical Berkeley fashion, no one agreed.

"I am absolutely incensed," said Cheryl Tolman, a 12-year Berkeley resident. "It's outrageous that the City Council is trying to close the Marines office down and let these total radicals protest there. This is supposed to be the city of free speech."

Donna Bell, a musician, also thought it's a free-speech issue.

"I can't believe there'd be these threats of retaliation from the federal government," she said. "Asking the Marines to leave is really a statement about the war, and Berkeley should be able to do that."

Mehdi Hussain, an apartment manager originally from Fiji, said the Marines should be able to stay in Berkeley.

"They should have a right to be here," he said. "I don't see why Berkeley should be such a holier-than-thou city. But Berkeley's always been that way."
Posted by:Sherry

#13  Next stop Toledo, OH.
Posted by: DMFD   2008-02-11 22:44  

#12  i'm a 57 yr old jewish lezbian
DEFEAT BUSH


Another sad case of a love/hate relationship with Bush. Oh, the incredible sense of ennui I almost feel.
Posted by: ed   2008-02-11 18:54  

#11  Ms. Joi should be tossed in jail for her assault on the English language.
Posted by: Eric Jablow   2008-02-11 18:51  

#10  "Barbara -- Tuesday night might be popcorn night! Folks comin'from near and far"

I just received an extra shipment. :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-02-11 18:49  

#9  "Maybe we should do a reality TV episode," said Mayor Tom Bates. "But in some ways it's good we're debating the war. Iraq has sort of been pushed aside lately because of the economy. The trick, though, is to focus the debate on the right issues."

No, dumbass, Iraq is being pushed aside (by the media) because we are winning - not because of the economy.

Also, FYI, "Reality TV" isn't real. No more real than the "Pro Wrestling" put on the the WWF (or whatever its called nowdays).
Posted by: CrazyFool   2008-02-11 17:40  

#8  "We're facing people who are willing to kill or send other people's children to kill to get what they want. We understand the reality of that, and we're prepared to face that in a nonviolent way."

Cognitive dissonance defined.
Posted by: gorb   2008-02-11 17:33  

#7  I'm having thoughts of when the hardhats in NY beat the crap out of hippie protesters during the Vietnam war. Never laughed so hard in my life. These Berkeley bums merit a truly righteous butt-kicking and I hope they get it tomorrow night.
Posted by: Jomosing Bluetooth8431   2008-02-11 15:52  

#6  I'll start cutting up vegetables, make a few dips, and get out the cheese and crackers. Oh, and poke my head into the storeroom of the O Club to make sure there's enough beer and club soda. Tea won't do for this kind of shindig. Party at the Berkely thread tomorrow evening!
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-02-11 14:37  

#5  This has a lot of potential. In past, protests by pro-military people have been all military branches, but this time it will be all Marine.

Now Marines may be very disciplined, but their families and friends are under no such restriction if they don't want to be.

I can picture some KIA Marine's mother standing up to object, then getting punched in the mouth by some bearded, obscenity screaming stinky hippie anarchist wearing a Che t-shirt.

That would about do it. Imagine hundreds of inactive Reserve Marines, retirees, their family and friends just plowing through the hippies like an M-1 tank through a turkey farm.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-02-11 13:07  

#4  Sorry, Zanne. I'll spread the word to the right wing onslaughters to try not to point and laugh...

About Me
i'm a 57 yr old jewish lezbian anti-racist mother striving radical womonist/feminist; daughter & granddaughter of survivors of the holocaust, mother of a young amazon healer & amazing human being, lover of wimmin & student of consicous living............even tho i am the one actually driving the truck, i could not even head out from home if it were not for the support of many, many, many wimmin (and several men as well). If you want to help support my trip across the country, spreading codepink, registering voters, working to DEFEAT BUSH, please click the "Make a Donation" link below- it's secure!


Why did I bother looking this up? I knew it already...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-02-11 12:18  

#3  Lets hope they've been on The Pill for the whole of their reproductive span and "Darwined" themselves out the gene-pool.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-02-11 12:00  

#2  "We want to protect our city from the onslaught of the right wing," said Code Pink spokeswoman Zanne Joi. "We're facing people who are willing to kill or send other people's children to kill to get what they want. We understand the reality of that, and we're prepared to face that in a nonviolent way."

BOOGABOOGABOOOGA!!!
Lighten up and take a pill, hippie bitch...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-02-11 11:48  

#1  "with bullhorns, drums, banners and plenty of vitriol"

D*mn! I wanted to see giant puppets!

I guess we'll have to wait for ZombieTime.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2008-02-11 11:28  

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