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WaPo Examines Why Dems Still Refuse to Acknowledge Progress in Iraq |
2008-01-10 |
H.T. - Joe Mendiola, from yesterday's comments AT SATURDAY'S New Hampshire debate, Democratic candidates were confronted with a question that they have been ducking for some time: Can they concede that the "surge" of U.S. troops in Iraq has worked? All of them vehemently opposed the troop increase when President Bush proposed it a year ago; both Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama introduced legislation to reverse it. Now it's indisputable that the surge has drastically reduced violence. Attacks have fallen by more than 60 percent, al-Qaeda has been dealt a major blow, and the threat of sectarian civil war that seemed imminent a year ago has receded. The monthly total of U.S. fatalities in December was the second-lowest of the war. A reasonable response to these facts might involve an acknowledgment of the remarkable military progress, coupled with a reminder that the final goal of the surge set out by President Bush -- political accords among Iraq's competing factions -- has not been reached. (That happens to be our reaction to a campaign that we greeted with skepticism a year ago.) It also would involve a willingness by the candidates to reconsider their long-standing plans to carry out a rapid withdrawal of remaining U.S. forces in Iraq as soon as they become president -- a step that would almost certainly reverse the progress that has been made. What Ms. Clinton, Mr. Obama, John Edwards and Bill Richardson instead offered was an exclusive focus on the Iraqi political failures -- coupled with a blizzard of assertions about the war that were at best unfounded and in several cases simply false. Mr. Obama led the way, claiming that Sunni tribes in Anbar province joined forces with U.S. troops against al-Qaeda in response to the Democratic victory in the 2006 elections -- a far-fetched assertion for which he offered no evidence. ![]() ![]() Ms. Clinton made one strong point: Even the relatively low number of "23 Americans dying in December is . . . unacceptable" if there is no clear prospect of eventual success. So far, the Bush administration has been slow and feckless in pressing for the national political accords it says are required for a winning outcome. If these are unachievable in the near term, the administration owes the country a revised strategy. But any U.S. policy ought to be aimed at consolidating the gains of the past year and ensuring that neither al-Qaeda nor sectarian war make a comeback. So far, the Democratic candidates have refused even to consider that challenge. I think it's time to acknowledge the almost discernable progress at the editorial staff of The Washington Post, although they are still a long, long way away from achieving a fair and inpartial presentation of the news. |
Posted by:Bobby |
#10 ION, FREEREPUBLIC > LA TIMES - DEMOCRACY: NO LONGER INEVITABLE. OTOH, STRATEGYPAGE > MURPHY'S LAW: AMERICA'S SECRET ARMY. In case any and all American Males don't know it, "the Law" as Artiiikle above says you are merely an Unpaid + Un-uniformed member of America's UNORGANIZED MILITIA [Armed?]. Your collective MALE arses, any each and all, legally? belongs to Washington and its assorted manpower + mobilization bureaus - anywhere, anytime, as required/needed for anything. FEMALES ARSES TO MALE ARSES > OOOOOPPPPPSSSIIEES. |
Posted by: JosephMendiola 2008-01-10 18:57 |
#9 The oracle of Guam. Like those 3d pictures once you get it, you get it. |
Posted by: swksvolFF 2008-01-10 15:28 |
#8 Yeah, Joe does require some translation, just remember English is NOT his native language, (Maybe not even his second language) and translate accordingly, he's understandable, but it takes both effort and inspired guesswork. |
Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-01-10 13:52 |
#7 I'd also like to comment on the hat tip. Some read and understood one of Joe's posts? Maybe it's me after all because I have trouble. |
Posted by: rjschwarz 2008-01-10 13:29 |
#6 The Dems should claim (a) that they demanded the surge by constant harping on the low troop numbers (b) that there suggestions to pull out forced the Iraqi's to step up in a way they otherwise wouldn't have. Yeah, not really true, but if you're gonna spin spin to win. |
Posted by: rjschwarz 2008-01-10 13:28 |
#5 ...whole enterprise. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-01-10 10:59 |
#4 I could dredge up chapter and verse of justification for Iraq's liberation made during the Clinton administration, but what would be the point? Pointless at this time place in the process, but yes they could have covered their ass(es) with paper if there wasn't days upon days of video that plays their own words undermining the who enterprise. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-01-10 10:58 |
#3 “A reasonable response to these facts might involve…political accords among Iraq's competing factions -- has not been reached.” One aspect that seems to have been overlooked (Or at least under-emphasized.) is the tremendous increase in Iraqi state-controlled revenues that are now being shared with regional and local authorities of these “competing factions”. This has allowed not only some buy-in into the process but for the first time average Iraqis are realizing that a “job” doesn’t necessarily require one to be employed by the government. |
Posted by: DepotGuy 2008-01-10 10:26 |
#2 I could dredge up chapter and verse of justification for Iraq's liberation made during the Clinton administration, but what would be the point? |
Posted by: doc 2008-01-10 08:23 |
#1 At first I predicted that the democrats would shamelessly claim credit for the success of the surge. Boy was I wrong. This is 'Bush' and the republican's war, to them. Now they won't talk about Iraq since it conveys no advantage to them to do so in their ongoing quest for power. Acknowledging success of the surge is only a negative since they are so heavily invested in the narrative of defeat that they have co-written with the media. Admitting they were wrong about the surge reflects poorly on their judgment. But don't worry - if Iraq violence flairs again, they come right back to the issue to use it when it suits their purpose. |
Posted by: WTF 2008-01-10 08:20 |