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Israeli forces arrest three brothers in Hebron and summon their father for interrogation |
2008-01-01 |
Ma'an – The Israeli forces arrested on Monday three Palestinian brothers from Hebron city in the southern West Bank and summoned their father to the office of Israeli intelligence in Kfar Azion, Ma'an's reporter said. Eyewitnesses stated that the Israeli forces stormed Hasaka neighborhood in Hebron and arrested Sufyan, Ali and Abdul-Hamid Dandis. They added that the Israeli soldiers handed a warrant to the father demanding him to go to the Israeli intelligence headquarters in Azion between Hebron and Bethlehem. |
Posted by:Fred |
#4 I believe the definition of "Jewish" in the Law of Return includes anyone who would have been treated as Jewish by the Nuremberg Laws. I'm not sure whether that includes people who would have been treated as Mischling. Certainly, some people who had a Jewish grandparent but no other connection to Judaism used the Law of Return to help themselves emigrate. But, considering how unattractive life in the USSR was, can you blame them? |
Posted by: Eric Jablow 2008-01-01 19:44 |
#3 IIRC, the Russian Orthodox Church doesn't blow up buildings or kill people, so I wouldn't worry about it. Some of these people will revert to the Jewish faith, others will remain Orthodox. The Russian Orthodox men will join the Israeli army and fight just as well as the Jews do, and none of them will refuse service because they're "Ultra-Orthodox", as the Hassidim(sp?) do. |
Posted by: Old Patriot 2008-01-01 15:07 |
#2 Not really a surprise -- I got the impression that anyone who could claim a Jewish parent or spouse was allowed in, so it makes sense that quite a few of them were actually Russian Orthodox Christians rather than Soviet Standard atheists. Still, those who are actively Christian aren't likely to submit to dhimmitude, unlike the Arab Christians -- they haven't the tradition for it. Nor do they have the tradition of submitting to a non-Russian Orthodox Patriarchy, which worships in a different language and has other different traditions, when there is a perfectly good Russian Patriarch in Moscow who'll be happy to send priests that speak the proper language. And, like the Jews who emigrated from Europe, the Russians are accustomed to small families, so this is not like to be a multi-generational issue... nor do they have a liking for heavy taxation and a quarter century of military duty. There are lots of Jewish Israelis who've emigrated over the decades; I suspect quite a few of the Russians who have no ideological tie to Israel will choose to make that move in the years to come, after they got all they could get out of the freely given opportunities there. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2008-01-01 14:48 |
#1 ....and in other troubling news, "The Russians Are Coming" to rescue the Holy Land????? http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2000/494/op1.htm There have been significant changes to Israeli religious demographics over the last 10 years, thanks to the influx of more than 1 million Russians. One in 5 Israelis is now Russian, 20% of the population. A proportion of these are Jews by ancestry but Russian Orthodox Christians by religion. Today new Orthodox churches are being built throughout Israel and even on the kibbutzim! The Russians and the Arabs are brother Orthodox in Israel and together they will bring a new springtime of Christianity to the Mother Church of Jerusalem. >"I was recently given two startling pieces of information by a visiting Palestinian friend from Jerusalem. One was that there were several Russian Orthodox Christian churches being built in the southern Israeli town of Beersheba.... "Just as remarkable is Lustick's observation that a significant number of the newcomers had registered themselves either as Christians or persons of no religion at all. As a result of this situation, the Russians, or to put it another way, non-Arab Christians are the fastest growing Israeli religious community and now constitute 8-9 per cent of the non-Arab population of the state... " http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2000/494/op1.htm One factor with which the Jerusalem Patriarchate will have to come to terms in the near future is the large numbers of Russian Orthodox who are now part of its flock. These are Jews enetically and Orthodox Christians religiously. Jerusalem has set up a church department for the Russians but it seems inadequate for the numbers of Russians involved. In the years ahead the character of the Patriarchate will be altered by the Russian Orthodox influx. Another article: http://portal-credo.ru/site/print.php?act=news&id=33276 Last wave of immigration sharply increased the number of secret [Orthodox] Christians in Israel Although official statistics indicate that the number of Christians in Israel is constantly decreasing, in reality, EAI data shows that there is a large number of secret Christians among the Jews who arrived from Russia and Ukraine between 1989-1993. Thus, the research conducted among 86,000 new immigrants in 1999 demonstrated that approximately 53% of them cannot be considered Jews in accordance with Judaic law. Available data suggest approximately 400,000 "unregistered [Orthodox] Christians" arrived with the last wave of immigration. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2008-01-01 12:38 |