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Iraq
US troops may replace British army in Basra
2007-12-14
American troops may have to be sent to Basra once British force levels are halved next year, the Army's senior general in the region has conceded for the first time.

At a ceremony on Sunday, Iraq's security forces are to assume overall command of Basra for the first time since Saddam Hussein was deposed in 2003. The move, known in military jargon as "going PIC", which stands for Provincial Iraqi Control, paves the way for UK troop numbers in Iraq's second city to fall to 2,500 by the spring.

Maj Gen Graham Binns, the commanding officer of forces in south-east Iraq, said that the Iraqi army had been rated capable of imposing order on the city without back-up from UK forces stationed at Basra air station and in Kuwait.

But a severe bout of violence would trigger a call for the fire-power of allies in the US-led coalition. "We are a coalition and if additional troops are required, they could come from within our reserve or from within the coalition," Gen Binns said.
Which means Uncle Sugar, natch.
"I wouldn't have recommended bringing down troop numbers to 2,500 if I thought that would happen but you have to lean into this to make progress."

His comments follow warnings from US officials that a British withdrawal would leave US forces having to intervene in the south, while heavily committed elsewhere in Iraq.

In August, the retired US general, Jack Keane, said: "From a military perspective I know what the commanders are trying to avoid is having to send reinforcements to the south from forces that are needed in the central part of Iraq. That situation could arise if the situation gets worse in Basra, if and when British troops leave."

The Army has already adopted its post-PIC posture. Preparations for an Iraqi operation early next month to confront Basra's so-called "irreconcilables" - locals who pose the greatest threat to security - are under way with the UK lined up to provide surveillance, intelligence and aerial support.
That will be an interesting exercise. Let's see if the IA can run the op with the Brits in the background.
Basra is the ninth of Iraq's 18 provinces to resume responsibility for its own security but the significance of the switch goes beyond symbolism. Key sections of Route Tampa, the main military supply route from Kuwait, run through the province.

The road as well as Basra's borders with Iran and Kuwait will continue to be secured with British fire-power. A battle group, led by the Duke of Lancaster's Regiment, confronts the daily dangers of patrols in the insurgent-rich region.

Since arriving last month, its Mastiff armoured personnel carriers have hit seven roadside bombs. "We've got an area the size of the North West of England to protect with 550 men," said Lt Col Gary Deakin. "We'll be maintaining security in a patch that includes the combat supply route, Iraq's only deep-water port and the borders. It's our area and we'll do what we can to maintain security in it."

Maj Tom Perkins, the commander of a 1st Scots detachment in the battle group, said: "There are elements out to take advantage of what might be perceived as a vacuum after the PIC."
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#12  It's probably just as well. We eventually have to go into southern Iraq and destroy the Shia religious militias. Both the Sadr and Badr have been doing our work for us, but eventually one will come out on top and then the Americans will have to lower the boom.
Posted by: ed   2007-12-14 18:26  

#11  Seems a good test case for the Iraqi Army to take over.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-12-14 17:09  

#10  I'm a Brit. I'm embarrassed. No Navy (to speak of anymore), an Army that the brass won't commit (in Iraq anyway). Thank God for the US of A. Only good news: Brown won't be in office that long and there are some signs of a rightward/Atlanticist revival in UK politics. Some.
Posted by: Peter Carroll   2007-12-14 12:09  

#9  Or the Mercs take over. Sounds a lot like the later Roman empire that hired massive amounts of Barbarian armies sine no Roman citizen wanted to be in the army. Of course, once the pay dried up or the Barbarians saw a chance, they turned on their masters and either pillaged or bit off a good chunk of Roman territory.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-12-14 11:05  

#8  The English army is pretty done, as far as the EU is concerned. This might be their swan song. So I suspect that in the mid term, private mercenary armies will quietly be assembled in Europe.

Not a radical idea, actually lapsing back to the old days in the time of the 100 years war. Such armies will be mostly used as "for hire force projection", whenever the EU wishes to do anything outside its borders.

Since Russia is about the only threat left to Europe, except internally, they have reached the conclusion that they don't need any military.

Of course they are wrong in this regard, but have to learn the hard way. If nothing else, once the EU no longer has a military, all any group has to do is to be able to overwhelm the police, and they become the new government.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-12-14 10:32  

#7  "Lions led by Donkeys" is a popular British Army phrase.

I think you can guess why.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2007-12-14 10:09  

#6  The road as well as Basra's borders with Iran and Kuwait will continue to be secured with British fire-power. A battle group, led by the Duke of Lancaster's Regiment, confronts the daily dangers of patrols in the insurgent-rich region. "We've got an area the size of the North West of England to protect with 550 men," said Lt Col Gary Deakin. "We'll be maintaining security in a patch that includes the combat supply route, Iraq's only deep-water port and the borders. It's our area and we'll do what we can to maintain security in it."

It sounds like quietly they'll continue to do an awful lot, while openly continuing to do nothing at all. That must be terribly frustrating for the serious soldiers.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-12-14 09:32  

#5  Wellington fought his Peninsular battles with a parliamentary bucket on his foot. Some things never change.
Posted by: Fred   2007-12-14 07:41  

#4  The British have wonderful soldiers, just not a good army.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-12-14 07:26  

#3  The Brits have troops...the US has an army....
Posted by: Angeater Peacock1369   2007-12-14 06:37  

#2  Gordon Brown has no backbone especially where muslims are concerned!!!
Posted by: Paul   2007-12-14 05:43  

#1  Like I did not see that coming.
Posted by: twobyfour   2007-12-14 04:15  

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