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Home Front: Politix
Biden: Impeachment if Bush bombs Iran
2007-11-30
Does anyone remember what Senator Biden's position was back in 1999 regarding Kosovo? I can recall President Clinton and Madeline Albright authorizing the bombing Serbia and Kosovo without congressional approval at that time.
This article is a big sloppy kiss for Biden. Romney doesn't get articles like this.
PORTSMOUTH — Presidential hopeful Delaware Sen. Joe Biden stated unequivocally that he will move to impeach President Bush if he bombs Iran without Congressional approval.
Impeachment begins in the House, you knucklehead.
Biden spoke in front of a crowd of approximately 100 at a Seacoast Media Group forum Thursday, which focused on the Iraq War and foreign policy. When an audience member expressed fear of another war with Iran, he said he does not typically engage in threats, but had no qualms about issuing a direct warning to the oval office. “The President has no authority to unilaterally attack Iran and if he does, as foreign relations committee chairman, I will move to impeach,” said Biden, which was followed by a raucous applause.

Biden said he is in the process of meeting with constitutional law experts to prepare a legal memorandum saying as much, and intends to send it to the President.
Joe Biden is living proof that our Founders were wrong: not every small state has two qualified citizens to send to the Senate.
When resident Joel Carp asked Biden why not impeach now given what has already been done, Biden said it was a valid point but might not be constitutionally valid and potentially counterproductive. A case for impeachment must have clear evidence, he said, and blame should be directed at the right parties. “If you’re going to impeach George Bush, you better impeach Cheney first,” said Biden, which also received applause.

Biden said the best deterrent to prevent preemptive military action in Iran is to make it clear, even if it is at the end of his final term, action will be taken against Bush to ensure “his legacy will be marred for all time.”
How about deterring Iran instead?
Biden took shots at the Bush administration’s idea to centralize government in Baghdad and called his decentralized plan the only way to political settlement. The recent decline in violence in Iraq, which some Republicans have credited to the surge, is the result of the military doing its job. President Bush, he said, has not done his job in using the relative peace to find a political compromise as he promised. “There’s no evidence it has happened and no evidence it will happen,” he said.
Other than the de-baathification bill that has been introduced, the oil revenues bill passed, etc, etc. Don't let facts get in the way, Joe.
Throughout the forum, Biden stressed the need to improve foreign relations throughout the world and pointed to his 29-year resume as proof that he can make that happen.
Thank goodness we have the Biden bill, and the Biden amendment, whatever would we do without the Biden amendment?
Biden joked about his low poll numbers, how the national media does not cover him and the lack of funding compared to the coffers of fellow hopefuls Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. “This is why I’m in New Hampshire and Iowa,” he said. “It’s the last level playing field.”

Biden went to his next appearance knowing he had at least one more vote. As the forum was coming to an end, Byrl Short stood up and announced his support. “I came here an undecided voter,” he said. “And you are the man.”
Posted by:Delphi

#29  MIL FORUM Posters > believe SAHAB-3 range can be easily extended to 5000 kilometers iff new Ashoura-Ghadir techs applied.

PAYVAND/TOPIX > US SAYS IRANIAN REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS NOW PATROLLING THE GULF. Any and all Iranian naval operations in Gulf now placed under IRGC for approxi 4-5 years. USN considers move a serious development.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-11-30 21:25  

#28  This is simply Joe Biden's way of reminding Democratic primary voters he's still running for the Democratic presidential nomination. My feeling is that this is just a throwaway line to get the press to sit up and pay attention. When push comes to shove, he'll just make the usual bland remarks about how pursuing this line would be unnecessarily divisive.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2007-11-30 20:55  

#27  LUCIANNE > Dubya is not afraid and will STILL send in US military troops into PAKISTAN iff he = USA has true evidence that Osama, etal. are indeed hiding out in Paki areas.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-11-30 19:33  

#26  I think there must be some asbestos or other toxic chemicals in the halls of Congress. It's like they all have alzheimers or brain damage.
Posted by: Whomong Guelph4611   2007-11-30 17:10  

#25  Does anyone remember what Senator Biden's position was back in 1999 regarding Kosovo? I can recall President Clinton and Madeline Albright authorizing the bombing Serbia and Kosovo without congressional approval at that time.

Excellent point. Biden has always been full of crap.

Biden joked about his low poll numbers, how the national media does not cover him and the lack of funding compared to the coffers of fellow hopefuls Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Proving that even most dhimmicrats understand what a loser Biden is.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2007-11-30 16:20  

#24  I suppose what surprises me most is that he even said such a thing. Well, maybe that says more about the average American than it does about him.

He knows the law and he knows there is no way to bring charges for bombing Iran unless they pass legislation explicitly making that the case. But saying so apparently appeals to a good number of the population who apparently don't know what impeachment is or what the war powers act is.

Either way ... he isn't the idiot, we are the idiots because if he thought the people would understand this, he would have never said it. HE knows better, but he knows that for the most part WE don't know better.

Shame on us.
Posted by: crosspatch   2007-11-30 16:07  

#23  Well, we can't all be found guilty of plagiarism like Mr. Biden! It takes a certain amount of ineptness to get caught so blatantly.
Posted by: 3dc   2007-11-30 14:55  

#22  Broadhead6
Shut up Biden. Nancy boy.

mojo
Joltin' Joe, bloviatin' agin. You'd think he'd eventually get tired of the taste of his own feet, wouldn't you?

Rolf! In a World of nettlesome things.. RB is a soothing salve.. LOL

Biden is one hell of an A$$-embarrassment.., let's all pray for a falling piano..
Posted by: Red Dawg   2007-11-30 14:29  

#21  90 days should be more than sufficient to bounce the rubble a few times.

Biden is a twit in the Carter/Kerry/Gore category. Rantburg needs a twit filter so those of us who want to can tune out this witless noise.
Posted by: Darrell   2007-11-30 14:00  

#20  The War Powers Act allows the President to use military forces for 60 days, without a formal declaration of war by Congress. It also grants an additional 30 days upon a formal request by the President, regardless of Congress's agreement with the request.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-11-30 13:52  

#19  Biush can do anything he wants for 30 days as long as he notifies Congress in a proper manner, then has to go conress within 60 days after that to ask for more funding. Or so I understand it.
Posted by: OldSpook   2007-11-30 13:42  

#18  And besides ... they can "impeach" all they want, it would take 66 members to convict and there has to be a crime committed.

Bombing Iran without congressional approval is NOT against the law. The first thing Biden would have to do is decide what law such a bombing violated. You can't impeach just because you don't LIKE what someone did, the purpose if impeachment is to bring top Executive and Judicial branch members to justice when otherwise they might either pardon themselves or otherwise rule in their own favor.
Posted by: crosspatch   2007-11-30 13:10  

#17  What will Biden do if France bombs them?
Posted by: crosspatch   2007-11-30 13:07  

#16  Joltin' Joe, bloviatin' agin. You'd think he'd eventually get tired of the taste of his own feet, wouldn't you?
Posted by: mojo   2007-11-30 13:02  

#15  Biden said the best deterrent to prevent preemptive military action in Iran is to make it clear, even if it is at the end of his final term, action will be taken against Bush to ensure “his legacy will be marred for all time.”

Little does this spineless moron realize that bombing Iran and pre-empting their aquisition of nuclear weapons would one of the few things to burnish Bush's now-faltering legacy in ways that little else could.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-30 12:42  

#14  Shut up Biden. Nancy boy.
Posted by: Broadhead6   2007-11-30 12:36  

#13  Even if Bush went to Congress (as he did prior to Iraq) the Congress would forget their vote when convenient. Congress, established to balance the power of the Judicial and Executive branches has been a pansy and let-down lately.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-11-30 11:36  

#12  I agree, Silent. The manners of this country have been going downhill ever since duelling was outlawed. Besides, practically any "diminuation" of Congress would act to raise the IQ of the body politic.
Posted by: Skunky Slinemble1699   2007-11-30 11:34  

#11  JFM__ they impeach themselves... every time they open their mouths
Posted by: Snavick Wittlesbach6558   2007-11-30 11:32  

#10  We really should bring back dueling I think. Then politics will be alot more fun and I think even the common men and women of America would enjoy watching C-SPAN.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2007-11-30 11:19  

#9  The Arabs - except Syria - are somewhat online on the Iran proliferation issue.

I would hope that the President doesn't tip his hand by seeking pro facto support for the bombing. The rationale is obvious. During the Grenada and Panama interventions, President Reagan started explaining the second the troops hit the ground. Good idea.
Posted by: McZoid   2007-11-30 10:55  

#8   #6 Can senators be impeached?

No, but they can be censured and even expelled.

Even censure takes a great deal more effort than anyone in today's Senate is going to exert. Also, with Biden's party at the reins, it isn't going to happen anyway.
Posted by: eLarson   2007-11-30 10:52  

#7  Why is Biden so convinced "W" won't come to the Congress for a War Declaration? The Iranians would probable mount a preempted strategy anyway, just from the jittery nerves of 'sitting and waiting' the vote!! Handing Bush the trump card to play in the finally anyway!
Posted by: smn   2007-11-30 09:57  

#6  Can senators be impeached?
Posted by: JFM   2007-11-30 09:47  

#5  Damn, they're still terrified of Cheney, aren't they?

The 'Impeach Bush' yard signs in my neighborhood have recently been updated with little red stickers over the'Bush' part. The little red stickers say 'them both'.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-11-30 09:42  

#4  "Yes he does. It is called the War Powers Act."
Mark Levin calls Biden the dumbest man in the senate.
Posted by: doc   2007-11-30 09:29  

#3  Â“If youÂ’re going to impeach George Bush, you better impeach Cheney first,” said Biden, which also received applause.

Damn, they're still terrified of Cheney, aren't they?
Posted by: tu3031   2007-11-30 09:12  

#2  more than likely bush will do it when he is about too leave office anyway so what would the impeachment process be worth going through
Posted by: sinse   2007-11-30 09:08  

#1  The President has no authority to unilaterally attack Iran...

Um... Yes he does. It is called the War Powers Act. Man, I am so tired of dhimocrat crying and stupidity along with their left wing, uninformed fringe. Urge to kill... rising...
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-11-30 09:02  

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