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Africa North
Islamic fanatics demand teddy bear teacher 'must die'
2007-11-29
Righteous Seething alert!
The British teacher who let her pupils call a teddy bear Mohammed appears in court in Sudan today amid a furious diplomatic row between London and Khartoum. Gillian Gibbons faces 40 lashes and a year in jail after after being charged with insulting Islam.

She was charged after behind-the-scenes political moves to avoid a court case collapsed amid growing Islamic anger in the east African country.

A powerful Sudanese newspaper urged authorities to call a hardline Islamist leader linked to Osama bin Laden to give evidence at her trial, to stress how offensive the case was to Muslims. Extreme Islamic groups said Mrs Gibbons "must die" and urged Muslims to hold street protests after prayers tomorrow.
How about they all gather in the main square tomorrow at noon. Anybody who disagrees should move to about 1km away until they see a sign from God ....
In London, Foreign Secretary David Miliband called in the Sudanese ambassador , while Downing Street made it clear that Gordon Brown was 'disappointed' the 54-year-old teacher had been charged.
"Disappointed", eh? I'm "disappointed" you couldn't come up with something a bit more "appropriate". Welcome to reality, Gordon.
The Muslim Council of Britain said it was "appalled" at the decision.
Hmm, now who is on whose side now? Perhaps the MCB should be the PM of GB! :-)
Legal sources in Khartoum said it is possible the case could be dealt with in a single hearing. One lawyer said that if Mrs Gibbons pleads guilty and makes profuse apologies, she could emerge with a "relatively minor penalty", such as a hefty fine or a jail term equivalent to the four days she has already spent in custody.
Or both. And 40 whacks. And death.
But he warned that rising anger in Sudan, as news of the case spread, might affect the court's decision.
How islamic.
Yesterday, Mrs Gibbons met British consular officials in the jailhouse where she is being held. She looked tired and pale as she was escorted across the dusty courtyard with a blanket around her shoulders. Mrs Gibbons, a former deputy head in Liverpool, moved to Khartoum in August to fulfil her dream of teaching abroad after her marriage broke down last year.
Shoulda picked North Korea.
Or Watts. Or Soweto ...
The mother of two grown-up children was arrested on Sunday after parents were said to have complained she had insulted Islam's prophet by naming a teddy bear Mohammed as part of a class project. However, a boy of seven came forward on Tuesday to say it was "all his fault", as he and his classmates at the Unity High School had voted to call the bear Mohammed after his own name.
Careful kid, they'll have to either eat crow or kill you.
He insisted his teacher had not intended to insult Islam.
Shut up, kid. They've worked hard at coming up with a perfectly reasonable excuse to kill someone and you're threatening to spoil the fun!
Mrs Gibbons technically faces three charges - insulting Islam, inciting religious hatred and contempt for religious beliefs - each of which carries a maximum penalty of 40 lashes and a year in jail. But it is believed she will stand trial on only one.
How generous.
One's all that's needed.
Abdul Daem Zumrawi, the Justice Ministry's undersecretary, said: "What will be applied is at the discretionary power of the judge."
How 'bout the judge grows some discretion and deports the clueless one?
Mr Brown's spokesman said: "We are surprised and disappointed by this development."
I wonder what you'd say if you found yourself staring at the business end of the cane.
Mrs Gibbons's former husband, Peter Gibbons, 54, said last night that he and their children Jessica, 27, and John, 25, had been horrified at the news that she had been charged. "The children are not coping very well, they are upset," he said. "We are praying and relying on the Foreign Office and the embassy out there.
Could be worse - it could be the US State Department.
"My son is waiting on advice from the embassy to see if it's possible to go over there.
Although I understand the sentiment, those folks don't. I would have some serious second thoughts about doing that.
"Gillian is an innocent in all this, she would not want to cause offence to anybody."
Sorry, can't find "intent" in the Koran's index . . . .
One of Khartoum's biggest papers, the pro-government Akhir Lahza - Last Moment - said Hassan Al Turabi, once seen as the Islamic ideologue behind the government, should be called as an expert witness in the case to stress how offensive the teacher's action had been.
I'm sure he's quite an expert. Rolls his eyes clean 'round the back of his head, he does ...
The religious and Islamist political leader is thought to have been instrumental in institutionalising Sharia law in the north of the country.
That alone would get him into Alcatraz in any decent society ...
He personally invited Osama bin Laden to Sudan and the Al Qaeda leader based his operations there from around 1990 to 1996.
Perhaps you could get UBL to show up at the trial, too.
The newspaper's editor-in-chief also called for politicians to avoid meddling in religious affairs and not to argue that Sudanese foreign relations would be affected.
It already has.
Not that it matters ...
At the same time, Sudanese legal scholars warned that an increase in rhetoric would make it difficult for a deal to be done quietly behind the scenes.
They're barbarians. Might as well talk to a fencepost. At least you wouldn't risk offending it. Probably.
Professor Eltyeb Hag Ateya, director of Khartoum University's peace research institute, said Sudanese president Umar al-Bashir would not want to be seen to back down in the face of Western pressure. "One of main criticisms of the government is that they are giving too much away to foreigners," he said.
They're always using paper instead of stones, always stepping into the latrine with the wrong foot first,
"If imams at Friday prayers turn this into a much bigger thing, then no one will listen to the facts."
That will make them all that much more powerful and righteous, won't it?
Sudan's legal system is based on laws introduced during British colonial rule, but aspects of Sharia law were incorporated in 1991.
'Aspects'? Thought it was an all or nothing issue ...
Sudanese reaction to the case had been muted until yesterday, when demonstrations took place at one of Khartoum's student campuses. Speakers took turns to denounce Mrs Gibbons, brandishing a newspaper bearing her photograph. A statement circulated by members of the Muslim Brotherhood - a multinational Sunni Islamist movement and the world's most influential political Islamist group - also condemned her actions.

"We want to express our boiling anger and deep sorrow about this case caused by this British teacher," it said. "We want to tell you that the majority of Sudanese are Muslims so we love our Prophet Mohammed so much and we decry this careless way of dealing with our beloved Prophet."

One of its authors, 27-year- old Elsheikh El Nour, added: "If she made an innocent mistake and did not mean Mohammed the Prophet (when naming the bear) there is no problem.
Sounds somewhat logical!
"But if she did mean Mohammed the Prophet, she must die."
Whoops. Cancel that.
Leaflets distributed outside Khartoum's Great Mosque urged Muslims to march tomorrow in protest at Mrs Gibbons' actions. They condemned what they described as "flagrant aggression" against the Prophet Mohammed and asked imams to address the subject Friday prayers. The leaflets added: "What has been done by this infidel lady is considered a matter of contempt and an insult to Muslims' feelings and also the pollution of children's mentality as an attempt to wipe their identity."

The Muslim Council of Britain was furious at the decision to charge Mrs Gibbons. "This is disgraceful and defies common sense," said Secretary-General Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari. "There was clearly no intention on the part of the teacher to deliberately insult the Islamic faith.
Willing to go to war with the "extremists" on this one?
"The children in Mrs Gibbons's class and their parents have all testified as to her innocence in this matter. We call upon the Sudanese President, Umar al-Bashir, to intervene in this case without delay to ensure that Mrs Gibbons is freed from this quite shameful ordeal."
Posted by:gorb

#19  Â“ItÂ’s a very fair verdict, she could have had six months and lashes and a fine, and she only got 15 days and deportation,” said Robert Boulos of the Unity High School, adding they would not appeal the decision.

Not if they want to live.
Posted by: KBK   2007-11-29 23:49  

#18  Any muslims out there reading this blog? Any muslim apologists reading this blog?

I don't know if any muslims read this blog. I do know this blog gets it's fair share of apologists for islam. Tell me, explain to me...how do you square this circle? How do you justify this woman even being arrested let alone spending so much as one night in jail for the BS offesne of insulting the so called religion of peace? How? Explain it to me. Please, don't try. You can't. You know you can't.

Muslims...your religion is just not compatible with civilized society. You don't get it, do you? You really don't understand, do you?

I read a theory the other day suggesting that the REAL reason there hasn't been another 9-11 type of attack on American soil is that the muzzie powers that be here in the USA understood that such an attack would propel into the office of the prez a Repub rather than a Dem. The theory holds that Homeland Security isn't all that good and that the muzzies among us could hit us hard anytime they want, but they won't for fear of aiding the election of a Repbub in 2008 rather than a weak ass Dem. I believe in this theory.

What the theory does not take into account is the wrath of the real American people. The average joe six pack - when the time comes, when push comes to shove - can be ruthless. Ruthless beyond your imagination.

You muzzies and your apologists won't take this as a warning. If I were you I'd laugh too given the state of affairs in Europe and Asia. But this land - the USA - will be harder to take than you think. Your plan is to take the USA slowly, very slowly. Understand this: we are not Europe. We are not Asia. We will bite back and when we do.....

God help us and - perhaps - forgive us for what we must do.
Posted by: Mark Z   2007-11-29 19:14  

#17  Nuking Mecca wont stops Islam any more than nuking St. Peters Cathedral would stop Christianity.

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Posted by: Mike N.   2007-11-29 16:15  

#16  The friday sermons in Khartoum should be interesting this week.
Posted by: mhw   2007-11-29 15:56  

#15  That's one shoe dropped. Now let's see what happens to the school.
Posted by: mrp   2007-11-29 14:28  

#14  I think the obvious lesson here is that these Sudanese savages don't need (or deserve) the benefits of Western education, and the idiots who feel compelled to offer it need to think again.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder   2007-11-29 14:26  

#13  maybe the bear gets to have sex with any 9 year old girl named Aisha
Posted by: mhw   2007-11-29 14:21  

#12  Report on Drudge says that she got 15 days in jail and then gets deported.
no mention of bear's fate.
Posted by: USN,Ret.   2007-11-29 14:16  

#11  This crap will never end unless one side completely destroys the other, as in full dhimmitude or nuke Mecca. Either way will bring about the final end to this brainless victimization process. I know that Bush, Rice, Brown and Rudd are working toward a final dhimmitude atatus, but some of us would rather kill first.
Posted by: wxjames   2007-11-29 13:04  

#10  One of the big problems here are the loudmouths who try to inflame the situation. What is needed, the minute these a-holes call for somebody to be killed, is for some anonymous person to call for the agitators to be killed, for calling for murder.

In other words, turn it right back on them, and see how they like it. Since they are cowardly dogs, many of them will shut up and quickly, not even liking the possibility that someone might want them dead, too.

If nothing else, it would throw a lot of them into a blind panic.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-11-29 13:01  

#9  mrp - you got it right.
Posted by: Whomong Guelph4611   2007-11-29 12:41  

#8  90% of the student body was Muslim, mostly children of the Sudanese "elite". Since the school had a Christian identity, those squishy Muslims had to be taught a lesson.
Posted by: mrp   2007-11-29 12:36  

#7  What about the kids? It was their idea and, as muslims, should have known better.

The class should at least be beheaded.

It's only right.
Posted by: danking70   2007-11-29 12:05  

#6  CNN reports that the "Unity School" where Gibbons worked has been shut down. For the radical Muslims, it's "Mission Accomplished".
Posted by: mrp   2007-11-29 10:49  

#5  Eliminate anyone who threatens British citizens with death for heresy. Start with Elsheikh El Nour.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-11-29 09:24  

#4  Let's take a look at the advice the UK Foreign Ministry has issued for Britons who are considering a trip to Sudan: LINK

Bottom line: Please don't go there; no indication that Britons have been ordered to leave.
Posted by: mrp   2007-11-29 08:42  

#3  If they do say they will flog the poor woman, then the Brit PM should call their ambassador in and offer him the starring role in a re-enacted drawing and quartering.

Course, if the Brit PM really had a spine, the woman would mysterious vanish from jail, leaving behind only a horde of bullet riddled corpses and a nice package that says, "Welcome to Gomorrah. This bomb will detonate before you can move. Panic." and has a yield measured in kilotons.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2007-11-29 08:33  

#2  The teddy bear story is in the WaPo this morning and even in the children's page.

This story has some legs.

Of course some organized Muslim groups in the US and elsewhere in the West will denounce it and say that the Sudanese judges who have studied Islamic law for dozens of years each don't understand the love and wonder of Sharia.

It comes at a convenient time because of the Saudi rape victim getting lashes.

Many an Islamic apologist will have to call their office today.
Posted by: mhw   2007-11-29 08:29  

#1  rioting over cartoons.......40 lashes for teddy bears......thank allan for this religion....without them the world would just be so boring.
Posted by: Broadhead6   2007-11-29 08:03  

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