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Iran launches "locally made" submarine
2007-11-29
Iran's navy launched on Wednesday a new domestically made Ghadir-class light submarine in the waters of the Gulf which was outfitted with the latest shutter guns military and technological equipment.

The light class submarine enjoys high maneuverability, including the latest combat weaponry and technology, Iran's Navy Commander Admiral Habiballah Sayyari told Iran's news channel Al-Alem. Iran's defense capabilities should not be considered a threat to gulf states, but only for defense purposes, Sayyari said.

The Iranian commander also emphasized the need for his country to secure Hermuz strait, expressing delight to any kind of cooperation with the Arab gulf states regarding the issue.

According to foreign military experts, Iran's inventory of submarines patrolling Gulf waters includes at least three Russian-built Kilo-class diesel submarines.
Posted by:Seafarious

#17  Diesel boats can be VERY quiet. However, they still show up on active sonar. One of the reasons that surface ships don't like to use active sonar is that it gives their position away. However, if the surface ships can't find the subs any other way, active sonar works very well. We also have several other ways of detecting submarines, including sonobuoys dropped from aircraft.
Posted by: Rambler   2007-11-29 23:18  

#16  Suicide subs.

Possibly. I suspect they'll operate using oil platforms for support facilties. Shoot-and-scoot. If they're quiet, they might be just as much a nuisance as the mines were during the Tanker War.
Posted by: Pappy   2007-11-29 22:46  

#15  RIAN > IRAN RECEIVES NEW STEALTH-CAPABLE SUBMARINE[Ghadir]. Naval Cdr. claims Iranian Navy has enuff missles to PROTECT IRAN'S SOUTHERN FLANK IN GULG. See RB article on QATAR??? ALso from RIAN > RUSSIA TEST-FIRES TWO BALLISTIC MISSLES SS-21 SCARABS SRBM/TBMS, these to be replaced by new and improved, MULTI-WARHEAD ISKANDERS; + RUSSIA TO CONDUCT STRATEGIC MILITARY EXERCISES IN 2008.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-11-29 21:47  

#14  TOPIX > USN CRUISER SPOTS TWO IRANIAN SUBS IN PERSIAN GULF [KILO-class on surface]; + IRAN LAUNCHES SECOND SONAR-EVADING SUBMARINE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-11-29 20:49  

#13  Italian-designed Pakistan sub

Why does that particular bit of lineage fail to inspire much confidence?
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-29 18:49  

#12  
Posted by: DMFD   2007-11-29 18:29  

#11  Bottom line, these are all mini-subs

Suicide subs.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-11-29 14:53  

#10  Pappy,
Great articles! Bottom line, these are all mini-subs.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2007-11-29 13:08  

#9  Some decent background on Iranian submarines here and on Iran's underwater warfare capabilities here.

If the intel's correct, it's an updated/reengineered version of an existing Iranian sub; a version copied from an Italian-designed Pakistan sub.
Posted by: Pappy   2007-11-29 12:16  

#8  Bet we could still sink it.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-11-29 10:27  

#7  "Were we supposed to fill it with baking powder or baking soda?"

Posted by: eLarson   2007-11-29 08:21  

#6  If they got one or two from China it would not be a Good Thing, however.
Posted by: lotp   2007-11-29 07:54  

#5  john - perhaps you missed the announcement that The Mighty Mad Mullah Mighty Military Machine is second to none?

Actually, after all the bluster earlier this year, I'm surprised this new sub can't do 75 knots while remaining completely invisible to infidels.
Posted by: Bobby   2007-11-29 07:07  

#4  Firing a ballistic missile from a sub is not a trivial task. Look how long India has been working on the ATV. Look at the latest product of decades of Chinese sub R+D. And both these countries are far more technologically and industrially advanced than Iran.

For its subs Iran will be limited to cruise missiles for perhaps two decades.

And that assumes it can get Russia to (a) modify their Kilos for VLS launch of the Klub or other cruise missiles and (b) sell them the land attack version of the Klub
Posted by: john frum   2007-11-29 06:11  

#3  Based on contempor Net reports, Iran will more than likely match Israel's move towards missle-carrying subs. Iran's IRBMS in its western areas are susceptible to strikes from Afghanistan, Israel, and even Russia - as argued years ago, Iran > deploy any LR Missles in fixed silos + undersea subs in one or both of the Persian GUlf + Caspian Seas.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-11-29 03:09  

#2  All you infidels are belong to us.
Posted by: The Twelfth Imam   2007-11-29 02:06  

#1  And here it is:
Posted by: Spike Uniter   2007-11-29 01:43  

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