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Iraq
Iraq uncovers mass grave from 1991 Shia revolt
2007-11-21
Never forgive, never forget.
NAJAF, Iraq - Gravediggers uncovered the remains of at least 13 people from a mass grave on Tuesday which Iraqi officials said was the work of Saddam HusseinÂ’s bloody crackdown on a 1991 Shia rebellion.

Gravediggers crouched in a large rectangular pit chipping bone fragments out of the dry earth and cradling the dusty skulls they uncovered. Police looked on as the remains were placed in piles after an excavation in a rural area north of Najaf, some 160 km (100 miles) south of Baghdad following a tip-off by a farmer.

Those in the grave had taken part in the Shaabaniya uprising, a 1991 revolt in southern Iraq against Saddam Hussein in which tens of thousands of Iraqis died, a spokesman for the Najaf provincial government said. “There is knowledge that there is more than one mass grave in this area,” said spokesman Ahmed Diabil. He said the remains of 13 bodies had been found by Tuesday afternoon and excavation was expected to continue on Wednesday.
Posted by:Steve White

#9  Has anybody (Zenster?) read enough history, or is there even enough available, to determine whether it was Bush Sr. or Colin Powell who was responsible for this?

As Commander in Chief, Colin Powell was Bush's subordinate and this happened on Bush's Sr.'s watch. If Bush succumbed to Saudi pressure—from all appearances a genetic predisposition in their family—then he allowed American foreign policy to be steered by our enemies. Something that—as previous head of the CIA—Bush damn well knew or should have.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-21 12:06  

#8  NS - as Harry Truman stipulated, "The buck stops here." It's the Prez that gets the dishonor.

Note well, however, it is all the pin-stripe policy wags in the beltway and in the lofty academic world who keep hoping* that people will be able to 'liberate' themselves with out having someone else get blood on their hands. From my observations, first and even second generation dictatorial/authoritarian regimes don't fall without outside intervention. As long as the regimes can have a cadre of 'true believers' to carry out their their orders, they're unlikely to be tumbled. It takes a generation or two before the rot sets in to allow internal pressures to start to compromise the stability of the 'leader' and his entourage.

*Hope is not a strategy.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-11-21 10:15  

#7  From what I've heard, it was both.

Powell definitely did not want to press on to Baghdad.

Bush Sr. had heavy pressure from the Saudis not to go farther, as well.

But that is annecdote and so far as I can tell the details are shrouded in deliberate mist.
Posted by: lotp   2007-11-21 10:08  

#6  Has anybody (Zenster?) read enough history, or is there even enough available, to determine whether it was Bush Sr. or Colin Powell who was responsible for this?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-11-21 09:44  

#5  WTF - I believe the Donk reply would be -

Why should we support democracy in Iraq when we really don't support democracy in America?

Just ask the people in Washington state, St.Louis, Chicago.... It's all about staging the appearance of free and open elections while making sure only the right correct people get the power. That's why they were better off under Saddam. They didn't have all those tiresome public shows that consume time and emotions just to have those who should be in charge wasting their valuable personal time engaged in something as plebeian as 'the consent of the governed'.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-11-21 09:10  

#4  Now Dems -tell us again how the Iraqis were better off under Saddam Hussein.


Posted by: WTF   2007-11-21 08:17  

#3  CNN -
Nothing to see here ... Move along.
Posted by: doc   2007-11-21 06:45  

#2  "This aggression will not stand."

Thanks to George Herbert Walker Bush it did stand and untold thousands more died horrible deaths. Pile the skulls on Tanglewood's doorstep.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-21 06:28  

#1  Yeah, I'll never forgive Bush, Sr. for letting those people swing in the wind.
Posted by: gromky   2007-11-21 04:26  

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