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Britain
Britain complains about Giuliani health care ad
2007-11-05
Britain's health secretary complained on Thursday about an advertisement run by Rudy Giuliani, saying the U.S. Republican presidential candidate had maligned Britain's health care system with bad statistics. In the radio ad, Giuliani, who has suffered prostate cancer, said the U.S. survival rate for the disease was 82 percent, but the survival rate in Britain was just 44 percent "under socialized medicine".

Britain's Health Secretary Alan Johnson said Giuliani's figures were wrong and the survival rate under Britain's National Health Service was in fact much higher. "The British NHS should not become a political football in American presidential politics," Johnson told The Times newspaper. "Our rate of prostate cancer survival is actually much higher than has been claimed. The latest data show a survival rate of over 70 percent and rising."

A health department spokesman said the latest figures from Britain's Office of National Statistics showed a five-year survival rate of 74.4 percent for prostate cancer.

Giuliani spokeswoman Maria Comella has said the former New York mayor got his figures from a magazine article and used it at a campaign stop, which was recorded and used in the advertisement.

Cancer survival rate statistics depend on the number of cancers that are detected and when they are reported, and therefore may not necessarily reflect how well a health care system performs at preventing cancer deaths overall. The Times said roughly the same proportion of men — 25 out of 100,000 — die of prostate cancer in the United States and Britain each year.
Posted by:Delphi

#7  Did Rudi mention if this was after 9/11, and the devastation it brought, while he was leading the emergency response with his brilliant leadership skills, or after 9/11 where America is now forced to deal with the growing influence of Islamicfascism, because the UK and Europe were more interested in expanding socialized medicine?
Posted by: Joe Biden   2007-11-05 12:08  

#6  I stupidly posted:

the mortality rates for men diagnosed with prostate cancer are much higher in the US

That should have read "lower" rather than "higher".
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2007-11-05 11:36  

#5  Cancer survival rate statistics depend on the number of cancers that are detected and when they are reported, and therefore may not necessarily reflect how well a health care system performs at preventing cancer deaths overall.

Unless the health care system might also be thought to have a role in detecting and reporting cancers. Which it does.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-11-05 10:28  

#4  There are no gays here, either...NONE !
Posted by: Dinner Jacket   2007-11-05 07:36  

#3  Truth hurts.
Posted by: newc   2007-11-05 05:29  

#2  TOPIX/REDDIT/OTHER > UK - HOW CAN BRITAIN PREVENT BEING TAKEN OVER BY EU [EU SuperState]?
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-11-05 03:43  

#1  This was noted on Hot Air the other day. Article's here.

Short version: while the mortality rates for prostate cancer are similar between the US and Britain, the mortality rates for men diagnosed with prostate cancer are much higher in the US. That is, once they realize you have prostate cancer, your odds of surviving are better in the US (80% vs 43%, if I understand their figures correctly).

According to that article, only 40% of cancer patients in Britain see an oncologist, which sounds mind-boggling. Perhaps Dr. Steve can clarify.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2007-11-05 00:43  

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