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Homeland Security strikes deal with New York on driver's licenses
2007-10-29
The Bush administration and New York cut a deal Saturday to create a new generation of super-secure driver's licenses for U.S. citizens, but also allow illegal immigrants to get a version. The deal comes about one month after New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer announced a plan whereby illegal immigrants with a valid foreign passport could obtain a license.

Saturday's agreement with the Homeland Security Department will create a three-tier license system in New York. It is the largest state to sign on so far to the government's post-Sept. 11 effort to make identification cards more secure. New York is the fourth state to reach such an agreement on federally approved secure licenses, after Arizona, Vermont and Washington. The issue is pressing for border states, where new and tighter rules are soon to go into effect for crossings.

Spitzer, who has faced much criticism on the issue, said the deal means New York "will usher in the most secure licensing system in the nation."

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he was not happy that New York intended to issue IDs to illegal immigrants. But he said there was nothing he could do to stop it. "I don't endorse giving licenses to people who are not here legally, but federal law does allow states to make that choice," Chertoff said. "It's going to be a big deal up in Buffalo, it's going to be a big deal on the Canadian side of the border."

The governor made clear he is going forward with his plan allowing licenses for illegal immigrants. But advocates on both sides of the debate said Spitzer had caved to pressure by adopting the administration's stance on tighter security standards for most driver's licenses.

GOP Rep. Thomas Reynolds, who represents the Buffalo suburbs, said he was glad Washington had heeded his concerns about border identification. But he said he feared that Spitzer "is taking this state down a risky path" by giving any kind of license to illegal immigrants.

Under the compromise, New York will produce an "enhanced driver's license" that will be as secure as a passport. It is intended for people who soon will need to meet such ID requirements, even for a short drive to Canada. A second version of the license will meet new federal standards of the Real ID Act. That law is designed to make it much harder for illegal immigrants or would-be terrorists to obtain licenses.

A third type of license will be available to undocumented immigrants. Spitzer has said this ID will make the state more secure by bringing those people "out of the shadows" and into American society, and will lower auto insurance rates. Those licenses will be clearly marked to show they are not valid federal ID. Officials, however, would not say whether that meant local law enforcement could use such a license as probable cause to detain someone they suspected of being in the U.S. illegally.

"Besides being a massive defeat for the governor, I can't imagine many _ if any _ illegal immigrants coming forward to get the driver's licenses, because they'd basically be labeled as illegal," said New York Rep. Peter King, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee.

New York has between 500,000 and 1 million undocumented immigrants, many of whom are driving without a license and car insurance or with fake driver's licenses, Spitzer said in September when he announced his executive order.

The administration has not finalized standards for Real ID-compliant driver's licenses. Spitzer said he believed the new licenses would meet those standards or come very close. Many states say it is too expensive to comply with the law; seven of them have passed legislation opposing Real ID. Neither the governor nor Chertoff would say how much it would cost to put the system in place or who would pay for it.
Posted by:Steve White

#16  Ebbang Uluque6305, some places have higher standards than New York (e.g., officially only dead illegals can vote in Philadelphia).
Posted by: Darrell   2007-10-29 20:48  

#15  I cant decide if this war is a comedy or tragedy.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2007-10-29 20:40  

#14  just in denial

Oh, that we could only dump them all in da' Nile.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-29 20:13  

#13  Not unaware, Crus, just in denial
Posted by: Unart Lumumba2527   2007-10-29 18:11  

#12  Those licenses will be clearly marked to show they are not valid federal ID. Officials, however, would not say whether that meant local law enforcement could use such a license as probable cause to detain someone they suspected of being in the U.S. illegally.


Again I ask--have they lost their collective minds? Who the hell is running this country? Are they all blissfully unaware that we're at war???
Posted by: Crusader   2007-10-29 17:03  

#11  State and Federal leaders foist this crock of shit in the state where 9-11 occurred. EVERY damn one of the officials involved in this crock of shit should be removed from office--by whatever means necessary.
Posted by: Crusader   2007-10-29 16:57  

#10  After who's going to stop them?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2007-10-29 15:46  

#9  Not just in New York, Darrell. Don't kid yourself. These people vote all across the country.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2007-10-29 15:45  

#8  Zenster, in New York they probably even vote.
Posted by: Darrell   2007-10-29 13:47  

#7  Why is there even any discussion of this? People who gain illegal entrance to our country are criminals and should not be accommodated in any way save by being imprisoned or deported. End of story.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-29 13:37  

#6  I proudly announce formation of the "Spitzer for Federal Inmate." Election campaign.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2007-10-29 13:10  

#5  Will licenses issued to Illegals come with complementary homing beacons?
Posted by: Delphi   2007-10-29 12:07  

#4  Wonder how the New York hazardous and nuclear materials driver's licenses for illegals program is doing?
Posted by: ed   2007-10-29 11:50  

#3  "out of the shadows"???

They should be thrown out of the country.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2007-10-29 11:20  

#2  Keep an eye on this. If this stirs up a grass-roots protest and puts Spitzer further in the hole he has dug, it could be a big opening for the Republicans in 08.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-10-29 09:50  

#1  It should be illegal to drive without collision insurance. And it is in some states.
Posted by: McZoid   2007-10-29 04:37  

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