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12 Turkish soldiers killed in Kurdish rebel attack
2007-10-21
Will that be a motive for an incursion within iraq?
ANKARA - The Turkish military said Sunday that 12 soldiers were killed in an attack by Kurdish rebels in southeastern Turkey near the Iraqi border.
A stupid move, but a move of calculated stupidity.
Turkish private television channel NTV said 16 soldiers were killed and 10 others were also taken hostage by the rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK.
Since the parliament has just voted to allow the Turkish army to go into Iraqi Kurdistan to clean up the mess, the PKK obviously wants to make sure that happens. I'm guessing they think it will lead to internal convulsions within Turkey and advance their cause. I'm guessing the Turks are going to kick their tails.
One of the few things the quasi-Islamists and the military-seculars agree on in Turkey is the need to stomp the PKK ...
The military said it killed 23 guerrillas in an offensive launched in retaliation for the attack, according to the Associated Press.
See what I mean?
The attack by the PKK rebels occurred in Hakkari Province, according to NTV. The state-run Anatolia news agency reported that the rebels attacked the unit with heavy machinery, adding that several soldiers were injured. "A large PKK group that infiltrated across our borders launched a three-pronged attack on an infantry company near the town of Daglica, and in the ensuing clash 12 soldiers were martyred and 16 soldiers were wounded," the military said in a statement, according to AP. The attack comes four days after Turkey's Parliament passed a motion allowing the military to launch an offensive into neighboring northern Iraq to stamp out PKK rebels, hiding there.
Posted by:anonymous5089

#9  Maybe they should ask the Greeks about the Turks.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305   2007-10-21 23:10  

#8  the PKK are blood red commies

Outside western universities? Are you sure?
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-10-21 15:52  

#7  Folks, keep in mind that the PKK are blood red commies.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-10-21 14:44  

#6  Are we making a deal with the devil?

No. You did this when you started supporting "Palestinians" & "Kosovars" rights to self determination. Helping Kurds is both just (the Kurds existed as a separate nation for thousands of years) & good politics (The, hypothetical, Kurdish state will give USA reliable bases---they can't survive without you).
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-10-21 14:41  

#5  Without Tactical Air Support the Kurds may regret pi^^ing off the Turks. The Kurds amy be good infantry but without Air and Artillery they are hamburger and I doublt the US will provide them to the PKK or the others Kurds trying to support the PKK. And I doubt the Turks will occupy & hold so they won't be stationary targets like we are.
Posted by: Throger Thains8048   2007-10-21 13:32  

#4  I think the Turkish army is going to have its hand full attacking the Kurds. I think the Kurds are good fighters, highly motivated and very well prepared.

They are also aware that it doesn't take an outright military victory to win. The fact that they fight the Turkish army wins lots of support amongst Kurds in Turkey. If they bloody the Turk's nose then they will get lots of recruits and probably a surge of unrest in Kurdish Turkey.
Posted by: DoDo   2007-10-21 12:22  

#3  If we are making a deal, yes. If we aren't making a deal, no. Deals by omission don't count.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-10-21 10:48  

#2  A big question I've never seen addressed is a simple one: What does the PKK want?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKK

And once you know the answer to that, you see the paradox. They are the only serious Kurdish organization fighting the Iranians as well as the Turks.

It seems the only reason the US doesn't squash them like a bug is because they destabilize northwest Iran. But the big questions is:

Is it worth it? Are we making a deal with the devil?
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-10-21 10:36  

#1  They should know that the Turkish Military is very close to my heart.
Posted by: newc   2007-10-21 10:25  

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