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| Europe |
| Minarets make poor neighbors |
| 2007-10-14 |
| The native backlash has begun. And not just in Switzerland. "It seems our experience here is resonating across Europe," says a Swiss official in Berne. "Culture clashes" over Muslim religious buildings have erupted in Italy, Austria, Germany, and the Netherlands. "Christian fundamentalists are behind this," says Reinhard Schulze, professor of Islamic studies at Berne University. "And there's also a lot of money coming in from the Gulf states." From London's docklands to the rolling hills of Tuscany, from southern Austria to Amsterdam and Cologne, the issue of Islamic architecture and its impact on citadels of "western civilisation" is increasingly contentious. The far right is making capital from Islamophobia by focusing on the visible symbols of Islam in Europe. In Switzerland it is the far-right SVP that is setting the terms of the debate. |
| Posted by:Nimble Spemble |
| #20 Thanks Zen, I should have wiki'ed I guess. To be honest, they sounded like they had the same opinions/thoughts as me. But translation is not perfect. Appreciate it. Mike, your thanks probably should have been directed to trailing wife. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-10-14 21:23 |
| #19 We owe Muslim pollutants - or immigrants - absolutely nothing. I beg to differ. We owe Muslim a major beatdown until they give up on jihad, abandon shari'a law and forget about the global caliphate. Until then, it's a continuous 24/7/365¼ ass whipping. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-10-14 21:21 |
| #18 Minority religions do poorly in the Muslim tyrannies. We owe Muslim pollutants - or immigrants - absolutely nothing. |
| Posted by: McZoid 2007-10-14 20:14 |
| #17 RE: #14 inserting some innocuous and benign porcine DNA into all gentically engineered food and medicine You want more? |
| Posted by: Halliburton DNA-Manipulation Division 2007-10-14 17:12 |
| #16 Zen, sent you an email. Contact me. |
| Posted by: Whiskey Mike 2007-10-14 16:17 |
| #15 Thanks Zen, I should have wiki'ed I guess. To be honest, they sounded like they had the same opinions/thoughts as me. But translation is not perfect. Appreciate it. |
| Posted by: Whiskey Mike 2007-10-14 16:02 |
| #14 Great idea Zen! Towards that end, I would advocate inserting some innocuous and benign porcine DNA into all gentically engineered food and medicine. Let Muslims do their own homework instead of riding on our coattails like some technological parasite. Besides, it would be a small price to pay even if crushing Islam this way did result in our great-grandchildren sprouting curly little tails. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-10-14 15:55 |
| #13 Whiskey Mike, it *looks* like they're American-style libertarian, what the Europeans call liberal. It looks like Reds and Greens have gotten together to oppose them. But I only know what I just read in Wikipedia and noticed on the SVP website. After all, the Europeans consider our Republican party to be "far right". |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-10-14 15:54 |
| #12 fight sorry, hit send before proof reading. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2007-10-14 15:25 |
| #11 Calderoli is someone I could really take a liking to. He understands the need to fight Islam with its own superstitions. Great idea Zen! |
| Posted by: Icerigger 2007-10-14 15:18 |
| #10 I went to the SVP web site to buy a few tokens of support (mints, pens, swiss army knife) and had a tough time wading through the site. I was not 'quite' able to determine if this was a 'far-right' site (I don't support Nazi's) but it seemed to be okay. Any inputs on the SVP are welcome. I can usually make out the train schedules and order dinner without too much bother, but I screwed up the web store order at the very last stage. I should have chosen PayPal, but I picked credit card and here I am. Sigh. lotp, TW, any insight into SVP? |
| Posted by: Whiskey Mike 2007-10-14 15:10 |
| #9 I stand ready to fiahg against the bastards any time anywhere. Does it require a special costume ? Just kidding, I'm sure it was a typo. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2007-10-14 13:36 |
| #8 The problem is that unlike Chsitianity, with whom shaing means tolerance, for Muslims, their share includes our obesiance and submission. ANd thats why Islam needs to be stood and fiahg against, vigorously. It is a slavemakers ideaology, as simply and easily as was communism and nazi-ism. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2007-10-14 13:20 |
| #7 This article needed to be posted in full. Definitely worth the read. "Unlike other religions," he argues, "Islam is not only a religion. It's an ideology aiming to create a different legal system. That's sharia. That's a big problem and in a proper democracy it has to be tackled. If the politicians don't, the people will." "We've got nothing against prayer rooms or mosques for the Muslims," he insists. "But a minaret is different. It's got nothing to do with religion. It's a symbol of political power." Halle-frickin'-lujah, people are finally purchasing a clue about political Islam. There will not be any progess made until Islam is stripped of its religious protections and shari'a law is banned as an abuse of human rights. Roberto Calderoli, threatened to stage a "day of pork" to offend Muslims and to take pigs to "defile" the site of the proposed mosque in Bologna. Calderoli is someone I could really take a liking to. He understands the need to fight Islam with its own superstitions. This is akin to the activists who "contaminated" thousands of Australian sheep being shipped to Saudi Arabia by feeding them ham. Albeit for totally different reasons, their strategy is one that needs to be adopted globally. Crop dusters should spray liquified pig shit over Muslim wheat fields. While the far right makes the running, their noisy campaign is being supported more quietly by mainstream politicians and some Christian leaders. This needs to change in a big bad way. Christians everywhere had better begin—literally—taking up arms against Islam. As it is, Islam has already begun a serious campaign against all Christians everywhere in the world. It's long past tea to bring the fight to Islam. "The whole idea of having these huge mosques is about being part of Europe while having your religion," says Thijl Sunier, a Dutch anthropologist. "You have young Muslims showing their confidence, stating we are part of this society and we want our share. And you have growing anxiety among many native Europeans." What's this "we are part of this society" bullshit? Muslims represent the people least likely to integrate. The "share" of society they want is total domination. Muslims are making a commitment to the societies in which they live. "They are no longer guests. They are established. This is a sign of normalisation, of integration," he says. No, this is a sign of total delusion on the part of Dr. Schmitt. There is no "normalization" or "integration". There is only colonization. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-10-14 12:21 |
| #6 Hmmm, those spam emails am getting... I wonder... megadik, is it about minarets? |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2007-10-14 12:01 |
| #5 "But a minaret is different. It's got nothing to do with religion. It's a symbol of political power." It's also a symbol of noise pollution. |
| Posted by: KBK 2007-10-14 11:54 |
| #4 Zen, I'll be ready with a horse race call when the time comes. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2007-10-14 11:28 |
| #3 I'm still awaiting the sound of screeching tires and crunching metal as Islam slams into the brick wall of Western intolerance for the intolerable. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-10-14 10:04 |
| #2 expeditionary wahhabism meets a roadbump and whines |
| Posted by: Frank G 2007-10-14 09:38 |
| #1 "Christian fundamentalists are behind this," says Reinhard Schulze, professor of Islamic studies at Berne University. " Rule #1 - Nothing is ever the fault of a Muslim. Rule #2 - Don't forget Rule #1! |
| Posted by: Raj 2007-10-14 09:35 |