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Inside France's secret war
2007-10-05
Posted by:lotp

#11  This article stinks of conspiracy theory, and I have no belly for that sort of thing.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2007-10-05 20:25  

#10  Its a French thing.

Once, our partner in France asked for a special dinner meeting just so he could tell us that to do business in France we needed to show strong consideration for the plight of Africa.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-10-05 16:50  

#9  Can't fault someone for trying though BS ;)
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2007-10-05 16:32  

#8  "I nearly forgot, one of the reasons for colonization was eradicate slavery and slave trade towards Middle East."

Too bad that didn't work out, eh, JFM?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2007-10-05 15:43  

#7  D'accord.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-10-05 15:18  

#6  Now colonization had its good sides but I wouldn't say the same thing about the post 1960 pseudo independence. De Gaulle's idea was to have an African block of twenty or more African countries taking oders from Paris for their UN votes so he could be the power broker between East and West. Bastard.
Posted by: JFM   2007-10-05 15:03  

#5  colonization was not a benefit-making enterprize for France as a country, it was motivated by the Forces Of Progress desire to spread "civilization" to inferior races


a5089. Yu have read too much Commie litterature and it has impreganted you. Let's remind you that it was Colonization not African tecnology who brought cures to paludism, cholera or that illness propagated by the tse-tse flty. It was colonization who brought "Habeas Corpus", roads, railways and so on. That for all evils of colonization it must have profited to the natives (at least in French and British colonies, German and Belgians that is an entirely different matter) since their population was far highrer at end of colonization than at beginning. Of course the capital sin was drafting the natives into wars between europeans, specially when it involved fighting not in their own country but in the trenches of Flanders or at Cassino.


I nearly forgot, one of the reasons for colonization was eradicate slavery and slave trade towards Middle East.
Posted by: JFM   2007-10-05 14:48  

#4  Françafrique in brief
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-05 12:53  

#3  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francafrique
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-05 12:51  

#2  Nice article, probably putting too much guilt on France and exonerating africans; IIUC, colonization was not a benefit-making enterprize for France as a country, it was motivated by the Forces Of Progress desire to spread "civilization" to inferior races, as Jules Ferry once famously said (yes, colonization was a leftist, republican, secular and masonic thing), and was beneficial only to a few businessmen. The only exception being algeria, which was basically created from scratches and eventually incorporated into french mainland (IE not a colony, but a department).

Decolonization of african french colonies was for all purposes a privatizations, with management ran by masonic and old boys networks, and profits going to the Françafrique.
Again gaullists really are to blame here, this is their legacy (to cut some slack to mitterand, he was dying from cancer in 1994, and his grip on power was very nominal, rwanda was handled by the gaullists).
Frankly, we should cut all ties to africa, this bring us nothing, except a continous flow of hateful, resentful immigrants sucking off welfare... but, of course, this divorce won't be done, because 1) the Grandeur of France's last pillar is its african backyard, or rather, what's left of it after the rwanda and RDC and 2) money that flows to africa as aid as a severe tednancy to flow back to top french politicians.

Sarko certainly has less ties to the middle east and to africa, so 2) is less of a factor I'd say, but 1) remains.

This is in straight line with what the Republic has been from the very start, shameful.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-05 12:36  

#1  President Sarkozy will have difficulty fighting tradition and entrenched corporations to end the rape of French Africa... if that is even one of his goals.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-10-05 12:19  

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