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Southeast Asia
Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle
2007-10-01
Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed. The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: "Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand."

Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.

Meanwhile, the United Nations special envoy was in Burma's new capital today seeking meetings with the ruling military junta. Ibrahim Gambari met detained opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi in Rangoon yesterday. But he has yet to meet the country's senior generals as he attempts to halt violence against monks and pro-democracy activists. It is anticipated the meeting will happen tomorrow.
If at all. Leaving him to cool his heels is a gesture of contempt.
Heavily-armed troops and police flooded the streets of Rangoon during Mr Ibrahim's visit to prevent new protests. Mr Gambari met some of the country's military leaders in Naypyidaw yesterday and has returned there for further talks. But he did not meet senior general Than Shwe or his deputy Maung Aye - and they have issued no comment.
Posted by:Fred

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Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-10-01 21:21  

#10  At the same time, the crushing of such initiatives are a pre-condition for the realization that the existing dictatorship will have to be killed to the last man for its oppression to be lifted.

Assuming that the 9-11 atrocity was a "crushing of such initiatives" for us, when do we proceed to the subsequent phase?

Strategies that need your adversary to be humane have a fatal flaw.

We need to make Islam's reliance upon our humanity fatal.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-01 21:05  

#9  Just in time for volcanic eruption in the Red Sea and other events - D *** NGED "CHUCK" TV SHOW! Good MADONNA FANS > know as wid the Red Sea eruption, Burma will upset the local status quo, TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE USA-WEST , i.e. INTENSIFIED/ESCALATORY STRATEGIC DENIAL OF US MILPOL ACCESS AS COMPARED TO PREVIOUS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-10-01 20:16  

#8  Ain't that the truth.
Third World hellhole military government with lots of guns in a country the rest of the world pays little or no attention to vs. little bald guys in dresses with no guns?
Ya don't have to be psychic to see which way this was gonna turn out...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-10-01 13:33  

#7  "Strategies that need your adversary to be humane have a fatal flaw."

Literally.
Posted by: Glenmore   2007-10-01 13:04  

#6  ghandi's strategy worked well enough with the brits, even the colonial brits who had just fought WWII, but I really doubted it would have worked with, say, nazi Germany, to keep an european example, exactly like uncle Joe would have solved the paleostinian issue in about a month (or less). Strategies that need your adversary to be humane have a fatal flaw.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-10-01 12:59  

#5  I have been keeping my 'hug your enemy, Ghandi was right' friends informed of these happenings (since this news isn't on the Daily Show or MSM). As their champion of peace mascot, the Buddhist monk, is slaughtered without hesitation I expect to see a change of their basic presumption of paficism versus evil. One has already come around...
Posted by: swksvolFF   2007-10-01 12:48  

#4  g: Especially when the monks' whole strategy was:

1) intentionally protest, knowing that the junta will respond
2) get smacked down
3) army units disgusted that the junta attacked monks - revolt
4) army does all the fighting and dying, overthrows junta, monks & suu kyi collect all the credit.

This strategy generally doesn't work unless the dictatorship is a US ally and is more or less US-influenced. Elsewhere, an armed revolt is usually necessary. In those places, Gandhi-like demonstrations are a waste of good men. At the same time, the crushing of such initiatives are a pre-condition for the realization that the existing dictatorship will have to be killed to the last man for its oppression to be lifted.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2007-10-01 12:34  

#3  ah, but in this case the "brave" soldiers were simply murderers and the young monks,martyrs. Pretty typical if you ascribe to the doctrine that a military is essential.
Posted by: Sleath Gonque2433   2007-10-01 11:03  

#2  Especially when the monks' whole strategy was:

1) intentionally protest, knowing that the junta will respond
2) get smacked down
3) army units disgusted that the junta attacked monks - revolt
4) army does all the fighting and dying, overthrows junta, monks & suu kyi collect all the credit.
Posted by: gromky   2007-10-01 10:45  

#1  I must've missed it. Where's the outcry, marches, protests, etc. over the harsh supression of dissent in Burma?

Where's Columbia University when you need them?
Posted by: Bobby   2007-10-01 09:20  

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