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India-Pakistan
India seeks bids for 126 fighter jets
2007-08-29
NEW DELHI - India on Tuesday invited bids from defence contractors around the world for its purchase of 126 fighter jets in a deal estimated at nearly nine billion dollars. ‘The ball is now rolling,’ defence ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar said of the world’s largest fighter plane deal in 15 years.

The contenders will have to meet ‘three guiding principles’: meeting the operational requirements of the Indian air force, a fair and transparent selection process and a deal benefiting domestic arms firms. Industry sources say the Russian-built MiG-35 and MiG-29 aircraft and the US-based Lockheed Martin F-16 and Boeing F-18 were frontrunners. Also in the race to replace a chunk of India’s ageing fleet of MiG-21s are Eurofighter’s Typhoon, Saab’s Gripen and Dassault’s Rafale and Mirage. But price considerations have left these contenders at a disadvantage, defence officials told AFP.

Eighteen of the fighters would be bought off the shelf while the remaining 108 planes would be manufactured under licence in India, officials quoting the tender documents said. ‘The Indian air force expects the batch of 18 planes would be supplied inflying condition and deployed at the latest by 2012,’ a senior defence ministry official said.

India would also hold the option of purchasing another 64 fighter jets ‘under the same terms and conditions,’ the official said.

India called for bids as the operational fighter fleet of the Indian air force in 2007 plunged to an all-time low of 576 aircraft, from nearly 750 in early 2000, experts said.

The contract will be the first time India’s huge defence establishment has bought fighters after evaluating rival bids through a global tender. The tender also said the deal would be subject to so-called ‘offset obligations’ -- meaning a large part the cost will have to be spent in India. The Indian military introduced this clause into all major defence deals in the mid-1990s as a way of protecting itself from non-delivery as well as boosting its own domestic armament industry.

IndiaÂ’s Russian-built mainstay MiG-21s are more than 30 years old and spare parts shortages have hit its combat squadrons of British-supplied Jaguar and Sea Harrier aircraft.

With US offerings seen as having a strong chance, the deal could also mark a major shift away from IndiaÂ’s traditional dependence on Russian military hardware. Relations between Moscow -- which meets 75 percent of IndiaÂ’s armament needs -- and India are now bumpy due to a delay in the delivery of a Russian aircraft carrier and bickering over escalating costs.
Posted by:Steve White

#12  The Mig-21 has also killed more pilots than even the infamous F-104 "Widowmaker". The way the cockpit was designed and the way the ejection seat worked, the aircraft took off the legs just above the knees. You couldn't get down by parachute fast enough to keep from bleeding to death. It also had a nasty habit of flaming out at low altitude. Most of the problems were corrected by the time the "J" model came out, but by then there were tens of thousands of the older aircraft. We won't even talk about the Chinese knock-offs...
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-08-29 23:49  

#11  Send the the F-18 base models we are replacing now, let them "remanufacture" the airframes as we upgrade ours to the F-18 Super Hornet models.

Avionics can be reworked, and it solves their issues for high performance navalized aircraft.
Posted by: OldSpook   2007-08-29 18:04  

#10  McDonald's has sold the most hamburgers and Thomas Kinkade the most paintings and neither of them have any reputation for premium quality either.

Ouch....
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-08-29 16:49  

#9  The Mikoyan – Gurevich MIG-21 “Fishbed” is the most produced jet aircraft of all time and the most produced combat aircraft since WWII.

McDonald's has sold the most hamburgers and Thomas Kinkade the most paintings and neither of them have any reputation for premium quality either.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-08-29 16:19  

#8  Mig-21's and parts For Sale
Flying $85,000 plus Shipping (01/13/07)
These Mig 21's are now disassembled and ready from shipping 03/03/07
The Mikoyan – Gurevich MIG-21 “Fishbed” is the most produced jet aircraft of all time and the most produced combat aircraft since WWII. It is the longest production run combat aircraft, lasting for more than 45 years. The MIG-21 is the most widely used combat aircraft ever, in operation in approximately 50 countries on four continents.
http://www.tankride.com/Russian_Tanks_For_Sale.html
Hind Gunship's (Czech) For Sale
Condition: Display or Major work to Fly
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2007-08-29 15:07  

#7  Ofer up some early model F-16s or Hornets as a freebie (like apucher does w/ dope) to get the inside line on new aircraft. Lots of these old birds in mothballs. of course the EU and WTO would have a severe case of panty-waddage to contend with....
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2007-08-29 14:31  

#6  Too late. AESA radar is included in both the F-18 and F-16 bids.
Posted by: ed   2007-08-29 10:49  

#5  Let's not do a Clintonesque transfer of military technology that's any more recent than, say, the F16-C or D. Minus the more interesting bits of avionics.
Posted by: lotp   2007-08-29 10:45  

#4  Eighteen of the fighters would be bought off the shelf while the remaining 108 planes would be manufactured under licence in India, officials quoting the tender documents said.

f16 maybe but that's about it
Posted by: Boss Craising2882   2007-08-29 10:32  

#3  a fair and transparent selection process

This applies only to the parties doing the bidding, I assume.
Posted by: gorb   2007-08-29 03:02  

#2  Relations between Moscow -- which meets 75 percent of IndiaÂ’s armament needs -- and India are now bumpy due to a delay in the delivery of a Russian aircraft carrier and bickering over escalating costs.

Is there some sort of congenital predisposition that compels Russia to piss in the punchbowl at every opportunity? Here's hoping that India somehow overcomes it usual obsessively penurious bias and finally buys itself some high performance American hardware. One would think that Russia's constant pandering to Islamic terrorist nations would militate India away from doing business with them but the lure of saving a couple of paise must be totally overpowering.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-08-29 01:39  

#1  Only 126? How does FREE sound?
Posted by: Besoeker   2007-08-29 01:10  

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