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Turkey prepared to spurn U.S. alliance: advisor
2007-07-30
London: Turkey's newly elected government is prepared to turn its back on its long-standing alliance with the United States to counter the threat of Kurdish terrorism, one of the closest allies of the Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has warned. Egemen Bagis, Mr. Erdogan's foreign policy advisor, said Turkish forces were prepared to mount operations against Kurdish PKK fighters who had taken refuge in Iraq, because the United States had failed to intervene.

"We are hoping we will not have to do it. We are hoping that our allies will start doing something, but if they don't we don't have many options," he said. "Our allies should help us with the threat, which is clear and present. If an ally is not helping you, you either question their integrity or their ability."

A decision to sanction military action might also help to avert a potential clash between the new government and Turkey's powerful army, which is unhappy with what it regards as creeping Islamisation.

Turkey's generals want to go after the Kurdish groups because of a sudden upsurge in attacks, many from across the Iraqi border, and there has been a steady Turkish military build-up on the frontier between the two countries.

Mr. Bagis said the United States must appreciate that Turkey was prepared to go into Iraq, even if such a move put it on collision course with Washington, which is desperate not to meddle in the Kurdish part of Iraq, regarded as the most stable region of the country. "We would not hesitate for a second and we would not ask anyone's permission," he said.

Washington has made clear to the Turkish government that any military incursion would be unacceptable, but the Turks are in no mood for compromise.
Are they in the mood for a good drubbing? Peshmerga milita with some US air power: not sure the Turks could take 'em.
A poll last week by the U.S.-based Pew organization found that 72% of Turks regarded terrorism as the key issue facing the country. The same poll showed that only 9% of Turks had a positive view of the United States, with more than three quarters concerned that the Americans could pose a military threat to their country. Many Turks believe that the United States has been supporting the Kurds.

More than 40,000 Turks have died in the 30-year-old war with the PKK and 76 soldiers have been killed this year alone, the latest in a clash in northeast Turkey on Friday. Mourners have shouted anti-U.S. slogans at recent funerals.

"We are telling our allies that their image is going down," Mr. Bagis said. "Support for U.S. foreign policy in Turkey is at an all- time low. "The U.S. and the U.K. must understand that you guys took extra measures in the aftermath of 9/11 and the London bombs and we have lost many more lives."

Nejat Eslen, a retired general, said the military was losing patience with its American allies. "The U.S. crossed the Atlantic in the name of fighting terror in Iraq and Afghanistan. Turkey is helping the U.S. in Afghanistan. And yet it doesn't allow Turkey, a NATO ally, to cross its own border for the same reasons. What sort of a friendship is this? This is how enemies behave."
No question we should thump the PKK on the Iraqi side, and the Iraqi Kurds need an education on this point. Turks need to understand that we have multiple fish frying, and they have to wait their turn.
Posted by:anonymous5089

#6  Turkey has been trying to eliminate everything Kurdish from the Kurds in Turkey for the last 70 years. They have no sympathy. It also doesn't seem they'd make a very good member of the European Union, and I'm beginning to doubt their usefulness in NATO. The Turks are like just about every other muzzlem country - they expect the rest of the world to allow them to act any way they want to, with no consequences, both internally and internationally. It ain't gonna happen. Turkey may very soon find it has no US bases in Turkey (they've all moved to Iraq), and US "foreign aid" to Turkey consists of two woolen blankets and a bar of soap.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-07-30 23:46  

#5  Let them spurn us. The EU is welcoming them with wide open arms, no?
Posted by: Zenster   2007-07-30 21:47  

#4  Aside from the fact this is from the Canadian press, it echoes similar RB posts over the past few days. Clearly the Turks are mumbling if not rumbling.

Anyway - this quote from the article provides an interesting point of departure:

More than 40,000 Turks have died in the 30-year-old war with the PKK and 76 soldiers have been killed this year alone, the latest in a clash in northeast Turkey on Friday. Mourners have shouted anti-U.S. slogans at recent funerals.


Maybe someone, say a reporter, could parse the stats further and see whether post-war Iraq is a greater or lesser threat to Turkey? IIRC, we also did a bit of a favor in tracking and bundling Ocalan as well.

I wonder if the Turks don't have other motives than those stated. That wouldn't be a diplomatic nicety of the MME, would it? Could it?
Posted by: Halliburton - Reality Imposition Division   2007-07-30 19:02  

#3  I say, thinking of the 4thID, f... them and the horse they are riding!

Posted by: 3dc   2007-07-30 13:38  

#2  good point. But alot of countries that should've helped us didn't. They knew it was a mistake to think you could get these people to negotiate reasonably. If the Kurds are committing terrorist-like acts then arrest whose responsible. Warn Turkey not to interfere in Iraq. All of this takes tremendous balls which our government does not have. Baby boomin' cowards.
Posted by: Squinty Shaviting7720   2007-07-30 12:51  

#1  "Our allies should help us with the threat, which is clear and present. If an ally is not helping you, you either question their integrity or their ability."

Rather sounds like what we thought about Turkey when it was time to kick Saddam's ass, eh?
Posted by: SteveS   2007-07-30 12:24  

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