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India-Pakistan
9 MOABs
2007-07-29
The United States has publicly pointed out the location of nine terrorist training camps in the North Waziristan area of the Pakistani tribal areas. It's in this area that senior al Qaeda leaders are believed to be hiding, and the U.S. is trying to persuade Pakistan to make a major move into the area to shut down the camps and round up al Qaeda and Taliban members. The United States also refuted reports that they would bomb targets in Pakistan without permission from the Pakistani government.

The Pakistani government is now at war with al Qaeda and the Taliban. The Islamic terrorists from both organizations threaten to launch a major suicide bombing campaign, but, so far, this is off to a slow start.

Over the past six years of terrorist activity in the area, the terrorists have made themselves very unpopular. So the Islamic radicals have to be careful, as most Pakistanis are inclined to turn them in. The government is also installing a network of video cameras in the capital, apparently inspired by British security advisors, who have been working with Pakistani counter-security forces to trade information and experiences.
Posted by:Anonymoose

#8  tw...don't laff. It's going to happen.

The Dream Team: The first Mama and Obama.
Posted by: anymouse   2007-07-29 22:21  

#7  I'm starting to see calls for a Hillary-Obama ticket, which would make for a very amusing campaign.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-07-29 21:47  

#6  Gary...Now that's funny.
Posted by: anymouse   2007-07-29 21:12  

#5  If we wanted to, we could simply escort the 130's with F-16s carrying HARMs. Anyone turning on tracking radar would soon be eating raisins.

But I agree with the 'mouse. Nothing will be done. We have to hope for a miracle that President Hillary Clinton will prioritize the jihadis over her domestic enemies.
Posted by: Gary and the Samoyeds   2007-07-29 20:39  

#4  Glen...you are correct. C130 is the delivery vehicle for the older MOAB's. They are testing a next-generation deliverable by B-2.

In any case...service ceiling on a fully loaded C-130H is around 32000 ft. Drag chute drop from 25000 ft at night.
Posted by: anymouse   2007-07-29 19:36  

#3  Last I knew, MOAB were not deliverable by anything but big, slow transport aircraft. I'm not even sure they could do it at such high altitude - and even then, they would be extremely vulnerable to even rudimentary AA/SAM protection which such training camps likely have.
However, if we really do have the coordinates of such training camps, we DO have ways to make them go away. Cruise missiles. Stealth fighter/bombers. Even Hornets. And of course, the old B-52 filled with whatever you want to deliver.
Posted by: Glenmore   2007-07-29 19:18  

#2  There will always be times when to get a job, objective, or mission done, its necessary for a Commander of any rank to diss = shake the system and higher ups. SMART/GOOD POLITICS IS NOT ALWAYS SMART/GOOD LEADERSHIP, PERSONAL OR NATIONAL SECURITY, OR EVEN VICTORY, etc.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-07-29 19:04  

#1  I don't think we have the cajones. We should have done it when W had political capital.
Posted by: anymouse   2007-07-29 18:01  

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