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Home Front: Politix

"Congress has gone from the brink of the abyss and leaped. Whee!"

2007-07-21

Don Surber, Charleston Daily Mail

. . . The first job approval numbers for July are in and the Reuters/Zogby Poll shows Bush at 34 percent, Congress at 14 percent.

Under Democratic leadership, Congress has gone from the brink of the abyss and leaped. Whee!

Pollster John Zogby broke down the numbers. "The Democratic Congress gets poor marks across the ideological spectrum -- just 21 percent of liberals and 10 percent of the very liberal give it positive marks, while 14 percent of conservatives and 14 percent of the very conservative give it positive ratings," Zogby wrote.

"Among Democrats, just 19 percent give Congress positive marks, compared to 13 percent of Republicans and 8 percent of political independents.

"By way of comparison, the Republican Congress had a 23 percent positive job approval rating last October, just a week before voters tossed the GOP out of their leadership posts in both houses."

After six months, Democrats do have one bipartisan accomplishment: Everyone hates Congress. Not so George Walker Bush. Among Republicans, 63 percent still think he is doing an outstanding job

Congress now has no base outside of its staff, the reporters who cover it and Mom, and even she is wavering. . . .

Read the rest of it to see why this is not necessarily reason for Schadenfreude.

Posted by:Mike

#17 Yep, my oath is to support and defend the const of the US against all enemies, foreign & domestic, and to bear true faith & allegiance to the same, etc.

No mention of pres, country or congress.

Porcopious2k makes a point I've been wondering about the last two months -- gonna come a time when congress pulls some blatant shit in violation of the const -- I'm wondering how we in the mil react. I would personally have no prob escorting some of them cowards from their offices at gun point -- really hope it never comes to that in my lifetime.

Posted by: Broadhead6 2007-07-21 22:31

#16 It's a simple formula. America loves and respects a winner. We do not accept bad behavior from our winners, like Michael Vick or OJ. We do not accept lucrative gains at our expense, but we don't mind profit for goods or services, as in Bill Gates. Politics, however is supposedly a zero sum game, and we expect out politicians not to feed at the public trough. When they are caught, we like to crush them. When they behave badly, we like to replace them.
Except donks. When their politicians behave badly, they sometimes become heros, like Willy.
Finally, we expect our military to be winners, behave correctly, and we make heros out of all of them.
Too bad Hollywood has gone so far into the darkness of their imaginations that they search without a clue for a hero from a fight. They can't even find a fight worthy of a hero, yet the world is abuzz with war. The world is upside down now.

Posted by: wxjames 2007-07-21 19:24

#15 JohnQC - You are right - see the link I posted in post #6. That's right - you're number one!

But, shhhh, it's a big secret that is not supposed to get out.

Posted by: AT 2007-07-21 16:35

#14 higher? try 40-50 points higher

Posted by: Frank G 2007-07-21 16:34

#13 I read recently that the military came out higher than Congress or the President in polls.

Posted by: JohnQC 2007-07-21 16:27

#12 Pro2K,

I'm waiting for him too. I'll throw the welcoming party.

Posted by: jds 2007-07-21 15:08

#11 I bet specific agencies would rate lower than 1%. The CIA and DHS come to mind.

Posted by: Super Hose 2007-07-21 15:04

#10 Zen & Rex, you're right about the posionous 'bots, BUT!!!!!!

The problem is that the civil service lifers are just as committed to the special interests and the less control the elected have over THEM the less control we, the voters, have.

Rock, meet hard place; hard place, meet rock.

This is the genesis of the anti-Bush CIA & State problem. Same things go on in all the less important and less visible agencies as well.

Posted by: AlanC 2007-07-21 14:39

#9 Actually Rex, the officer oath is to uphold and defend the Constitution, not to obey the orders of the President. The enlisted servicemembers do have the phrase to 'obey the orders of the President and the officers appointed over them'. The former is to avoid the allegiance to a single leader be he Caesar, Cromwell, or Hitler, where by the way, each German soldiers was sworn to obey. They still had a culture that didn't believe in breaking oaths. Our allegiance is to a concept or idea rather than to a person. So when those holding power in the institution of government start implementing law, no matter how rationalized by the lawyers, which is clearly in direct violation of the Constitution, you'll place those who truly believe in the document in a position of choosing to act 'against all enemies, foreign and domestic'. Not looking forward to that time at all. However, you can see the handiwork already in motion.

Posted by: Procopius2k 2007-07-21 14:37

#8 Lifetime political elitism is poisoning this nation.

Word, Rex. Special interests have entrenched their 'bots in office while we pay the price for it. Our trade issues with China are a glaring example of this.

Posted by: Zenster 2007-07-21 14:32

#7 Sorry Woozle - the military is not subserviant to the public will...not in the least. If follows the bidding of the CnC. Period. Even Congress can declare war over the objections of it's constituency. War is not an exercise in representative government...thank God. And Edelman is right in doing what he did. He's got Congress/Senate pissed? GOOD! Throw the lot of em out and start from scratch with term limits. Lifetime political elitism is poisoning this nation. Get rid of em.

Posted by: Rex Mundi 2007-07-21 14:06

#6 Woozie The American public at large will always favor the Congress over the military.

Really? Not according to Gallup

Posted by: AT 2007-07-21 13:28

#5 I love Newt but he's not electable ... even if Zell Miller joined the ticket.

Posted by: AzCat 2007-07-21 12:54

#4 The unpopularity of Congress might encourage a firebrand reformer to step into the presidential race. I wonder what Newt Gingrich is thinking when he hears this?

Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 2007-07-21 12:44

#3 Dhimmi lemmings head for cliff. They are their own worst enemy. I'm not going to tell them. Let them head for the cliff.

Posted by: JohnQC 2007-07-21 12:27

#2 The laugher here is that the libs rate Congress low BECAUSE they have yet to impeach Bush+Cheney and have not yet defunded the war. The conservatives rate it low because the Donks are in the majority. The American public at large will always favor the Congress over the military. It's the basis of the republic. And when someone like the idiot Edelman tells Your Thighness she has no business knowing certain info, he's way off base. He's got Senators from both sides ticked. The military is subservient to the public will. It will remain so.

Posted by: Woozle Elmeter2970 2007-07-21 12:12

#1 Who do you trust to serve the agenda of special interest groups? Congress or your military?

Who do you trust to serve in the interests of America rather than special interest groups? Congress or your military?

Who do you trust to serve for traditional non-aggrandizing civic goals? Congress or your military?

You do you trust to focus on the traditional proper functions and goals of government? Congress or your military?

Who would you expect to expend their time seeking more power? Congress or your military?

Who places more emphasis of nation above party? Congress or your military?

If the pollsters started asking these questions, you think the usual suspects in Congress on both sides of the aisle might get a hint? Or are they that brain dead, they wouldn't have a clue?

Waiting for Sulla. [They'll make it so easy]

Posted by: Procopius2k 2007-07-21 10:45

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