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2007-07-11 | ||||||||
Upset by the government's recent changes to the immigration law, four leading Turkish groups are boycotting an integration summit Thursday called by Chancellor Angela Merkel. But Berlin says the meeting will go ahead. A summit meant to ease the lives of Germany's estimated 15 million immigrants hit a major hurdle when four Turkish groups representing a chunk of the foreign population threatened to withdraw from talks this week with Chancellor Angela Merkel's government. The groups, who were part of the first such integration summit held last year, say they feel hurt and discriminated against by the government's recent changes to a 2005 immigration law which tightens restrictions on foreign spouses joining their non-German partners in Germany.
And if that doesn't work ... "We've concluded that it doesn't make any sense to participate in the summit because the German government hasn't understood the seriousness of our concerns and apparently doesn't want to talk about making possible changes to the immigration law," Kenan Kolat, head of the Turkish Association in Berlin and Brandenburg (TGB), told the online version of Der Spiegel on the eve of the summit. Helga and Horst, but not Ahmed and Aische? In addition to raising the minimum age for foreign spouses to 18, Germany wants them in future to learn basic German before they enter the country. The aim is to combat forced marriages believed to be widespread among Germany's Turkish community. Turks make up the largest group among the country's 6.7 million foreigners. But Turkish groups are irked that the regulation only applies to non-Germans. "If Helga and Horst are allowed to get their partners here why not Ahmed and Aische too?" Kolat said. Speaking at a press conference, Kolat added the law amounted to "ethnic discrimination" and applied "double standards." Brother, the Turks have written the book on "ethnic discrimination" and applied "double standards" - in Turkey
"We too believe that every forced marriage is one too much and should be severely punished," he said. "But the law is no means to counter forced marriages." So what alternative does Herr Kolat offer? (crickets) Government says summit will go ahead The integration summit on Thursday is one of a number of measures drawn up by Chancellor Angela Merkel's government to reach out to its large immigrant population amid mounting concerns in Europe about radicalization and home-grown terrorism.
They're staying away from an infidel-sponsored meeting. No haram, no foul. "Dream of multiculturalism has failed" The rift between the Turkish groups and politicians ahead of the summit also reflects a tougher attitude in Germany towards immigrants after decades of politicians refusing to accept its status as an immigrant country.
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Posted by:mrp |
#7 Here's why. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat Add "Comparative advantage" and "Division of Labour" and you get the reason any western country could crush every muslim country. |
Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2007-07-11 21:17 |
#6 Reciprocity is the foundation of civilisation. Bravo, BP! Reciprocity is a one-word summation of the golden rule. Reciprocity is the bedrock of the social contract. Islam's refusal to recognize this basic fact excludes it from all further consideration as a player in civilized society. |
Posted by: Zenster 2007-07-11 20:42 |
#5 Reciprocity is the foundation of civilisation. It's absence from islam, means islamic countries absence from civilisation. It's the basis of trade, law, property rights and liberty. |
Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2007-07-11 20:29 |
#4 Turks to boycott "Integration Summit" Sounds like they're assimilatin' jez fine. Like I was just saying, simply ask for reciprocity ... This is the key to dealing with all Islamic societies. The West had better begin demanding reciprocity on a number of issues. Freedom of religion should top the list. A Western ban on the practice of Islam needs to hinge on the MME (Muslim Middle East) ending religious intolerance. If Muslims want equal rights in Western countries then they'd damn well better start complying with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that all them signed in order to join the UN where they vote down so many of America's proposals. If Muslims want to squawk about "Islamophobia" then they'd better SHUT THE FUCK UP about genocide against the Jews. If Muslims want a stop to negative portrayals of Islam in the West then they'd better stop printing school textbooks showing Americans and Jews as pigs, dogs and monkeys. Reciprocity, it must become mandatory and no longer remain an option. |
Posted by: Zenster 2007-07-11 15:41 |
#3 I have no problem at all with the USa being a "Nation of immigrants", even if that's currently used to cover "excesses" to say the least, this is what you are, fine, and good for you. But Europe and european countries are not "Nations of immigrants", period. |
Posted by: anonymous5089 2007-07-11 13:26 |
#2 after decades of politicians refusing to accept its status as an immigrant country Germany an "immigrant country"? Won't go well with the german notion of nationhood... what a bunch of crap, no european country is an "immigrant country", or at least, was, until the past 30 years or so with massive and unprecendented immigration from alien cultures. There basically has been more immigration to France since 1976 than in the last 2000 years total, and this is not an exageration, and I don't recall reading much about pakistani enclaves in the Shakespeare plays I've studied. Blood & Soil is what they are and have been all along, not that there anything wrong with that, on the contrary. But the french revolution has blurred the lines, changing the notion of Patrie (patria, nationality defined as a "family", Blood & Soil again, much like the german idea of germanhood) into the one of Nation (the Nation as an idea, a common destiny to which anyone can adhere), and blurred citizenship and nationality. And in fact nationalism is a creation of the *left*, a direct heir of the french revolution, like many other harmful "isms". |
Posted by: anonymous5089 2007-07-11 13:24 |
#1 Multiculturalism == Slavery Slavery->Resentment |
Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2007-07-11 13:02 |