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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Former Marine stops Robbery by Perforating Perps
2007-06-30
Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men — killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could gun them down and not be charged.

John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11: 15 p.m. Wednesday when, Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to Lovell. They wanted his money, police said. But like his attackers, Lovell was armed. The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell, 22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of Fort Lauderdale. Lovell, 71, of Plantation, has a valid concealed weapons permit and is not expected to be charged in the shooting, said police spokesman Detective Robert Rettig. Gadson, however, faces multiple felony charges that could include murder, he said. Under Florida law, anyone who commits a felony such as armed robbery resulting in a death can be held accountable for the capital offense. "He feared for his life," Rettig said of Lovell. "And if he's in fear for his life, then he has a right to defend himself, even if it means severe bodily injury or death." Florida law gives people the right of "self-defense without the duty to retreat." That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere to prevent death or serious injury.

His attorney, Wesley White, of Yulee, near Jacksonville, said he has known Lovell for 19 years and described him as a "quiet Clint Eastwood-type you don't want to mess with." He is a former Marine who was a member of the helicopter detail that transported Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, White said. Lovell, a retired Pan-Am and Delta Airline pilot, has held a concealed weapons permit since September 1990.

According to a police statement, :Arrindell ordered Lovell to hand over his wallet. He intentionally dropped it on the floor and refused to pick it up, saying he was afraid. That's when Arrindell ordered him into the women's restroom."The victim believed he would be executed and when he noticed [Arrindell] distracted ... reached behind his back, removed his loaded .45 caliber handgun from his holster and fired seven rounds," the statement said. Arrindell was struck twice — once in the head and once in the stomach — and collapsed. Officers found him face down, wearing sunglasses and a bandanna, with a gun near his left hand. Gadson was hit in the chest and ran from the store. Police dogs found him in the hedges of a nearby office building and bank. Both men were taken to Broward General Medical Center, where Arrindell died and Gadson was in critical condition Thursday.
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Put a .45 into the second guy's chest and he's still alive?
And now for the obligatory outrage angle:
But Gadson's grandmother, Rosa Jones, said: "He ain't no hero. He is a murderer and God will serve justice." She and her husband, Ivory Jones, pastor of a Fort Lauderdale church, sat on their front porch in Fort Lauderdale on Thursday wondering how a man could shoot two people and not go to jail. They said their grandson sometimes hung with the wrong crowd but never got into legal trouble.
"He was a good boy."
According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, he has no arrest record. They said Gadson, who never finished high school, got tired of low-wage jobs and was pursuing his GED.
(And committing armed robberies)
Arrindell, friends said, found himself in a similar situation: no high school diploma and working odd jobs. So he went back to school.
(And began committing armed robberies)
He was a man with past troubles, including a 2004 arrest for carrying a concealed weapon, but he was improving his life, they said. He recently bought a car and had a girlfriend.
From the proceeds of previous robberies?
Posted by:DepotGuy

#28  I have a homemade pike and halberd and a Beagle named Freddy (after Kreuger).

I hope you have him trained to bite for the 'nads.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-06-30 23:02  

#27  Just *1* citizen, armed, liek th man in this story, at VaTech woudl ahve ended the spree far sooner and far more woudl have lived.

...or he could have pissed his pants and froze on the spot, or might not have had the time to react, or...

I agree with you though. It was insanely stupid for V Tech to prohibit guns. Reason: this is like a proof by induction: you let one idiot have a gun, you gotta let everyone have a gun. Hell at this point, even the people who don't want to own a gun, should have a gun.

Personally, for home defense I have a homemade pike and halberd and a Beagle named Freddy (after Kreuger).
Posted by: 8872   2007-06-30 22:32  

#26  The problem with Va Tech is that it banned the lawful private possession of guns - including state licensed concealed carry permit holders.

Worked real well in respect to the criminal, right?

Just *1* citizen, armed, liek th man in this story, at VaTech woudl ahve ended the spree far sooner and far more woudl have lived.

The blood of the dead is on YOUR hands, prohibitionist. Make no mistake: by restricting the rights of the individuals at VaTech in arming themselves in self defense, you rendered them defenseless at the hands of a madman.
Posted by: OldSpook   2007-06-30 22:07  

#25  Give or take a few Virgina Techs.

Lame.

Try imagining a life with no guns. One guy comes after your family with an illegal .22 handgun and you are going to just stand and watch as he rapes your daughter. Heck, he might even ask you to go get him a towel when he's done! And you will. And it will happen all the time. What are you going to say? "Hey, you can't have that gun, it's not legal!"

Look at countries run by malevolant dictators. Do you think their subjects own guns? No. Guns don't just keep bad guys in line, they keep governments in line, too. Yes, you'll see a Virginia Tech story now and then of course, but you'll hardly hear about the 1,000 stories of bad guys getting whacked before they get out of hand. You'll never hear about the 100,000 stories of the crimes that didn't happen because some might-have-been criminal was forced to think twice about doing something bad. Like going after your daughter. Even if you are too idealistic to own a gun in this unideal world, your neighbor might. Wanna take the risk if you're the bad guy? Your neighbor that might have a gun just saved you a lot of grief, and you didn't even know it or thank him for it.

One of my favorite Archie Bunker lines when Meathead was going off on people owning guns:

"Would it make you feel any better if they were thrown out a window instead?" [or something like that].

Say hello to gang rule, dude! And you voted for it! You just couldn't figure it out because you couldn't think more than one layer deep.
Posted by: gorb   2007-06-30 21:21  

#24  Tw is correct. The Virginia lune had no constitutional right to bare arms.

Once again proving our troll a moron.
Posted by: Mike N.    2007-06-30 20:26  

#23  It's not legal for the insane to own guns, as far as I know, the same as convicted criminals. But unlike Heaven and Plato, there are no perfect systems when people are involved.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-06-30 20:19  

#22  our Cowardly Canuck chimes in. *bleat*
Posted by: Frank G   2007-06-30 20:17  

#21  Ya Just gotta love that constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Makes life a real bitch for the bad guys!

Give or take a few Virgina Techs.
Posted by: 8872   2007-06-30 20:12  

#20   ... Gadson's grandmother, Rosa Jones, said: "He ain't no hero. He is a murderer and God will serve justice." She and her husband, Ivory Jones, pastor of a Fort Lauderdale church ...

That's the "holier than thou" defense.
Posted by: mrp   2007-06-30 18:57  

#19  Criminologists estimate that the average felon commits 16 felony crimes before he/she spends his first day behind bars. I'd be willing to bet a LOT of money this wasn't the first robbery this dead punk pulled. I'm REAL glad it will be his last. The only thing to be mourned here is that this brave Marine didn't kill both of these worthless criminal sons of whores.
Posted by: Mac   2007-06-30 18:57  

#18  How Malik knows, since he wasn't there, I don't know.

Duuuh. I guess it's obvious: he's describing the tape.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2007-06-30 18:45  

#17  Justice was done. Probably prevented these young thugs from taking someone's life down the road. He does need to hone his skills to Corp level so that he would get 7 for 7 hits and bag two for two. Would save the taxpayers some money.
Posted by: JohnQC   2007-06-30 18:45  

#16  Y'all will like this:

[Subway shop o]wner Khalid Malik, 54, of Coral Springs, recounted the scene captured by the store's security camera. He declined to let a reporter watch it.

[After the shooting,] Lovell adjusted his pants and patted his pockets.

"He looks very calm. He's just like our president says, 'Bring it on,'" Malik said.


How Malik knows, since he wasn't there, I don't know.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2007-06-30 18:44  

#15  "But Gadson's grandmother, Rosa Jones,"

Grandma, with all due respect, F**K YOU.

The wages of sin are death. Ask your pastor husband.

Your little thug was going to take a life and lost his instead. Justice was served.

Maybe if you had done a better job raising hour daughter/son and your grandson, he'd not be dead.

My son turns into an armed robber and gets aced doing it, I'll cry for the loss - but I'll also say "He was doing wrong and now he bears the consequences - God have mercy on him"
Posted by: OldSpook   2007-06-30 17:29  

#14  But the men's friends and family want to know how he could gun them down and not be charged

Charged with what? Surviving an attack by those who are not deserving of the title "human"?

There aren't many laws more clueless than forcing a victim to retreat until he is completely without any other recourse before he can defend himself. The only reason it is there is so the judge has less to think about, as if there actually was anything to think about here. Screw the survival of a good man. If I ran things, as soon as you found yourself in this kind of situation you could start shooting. And I'd award a medal to the guy for doing it.

And this kind of question speaks volumes about what kind of families the guys came from - and why they tried to do what they did.

I can imagine them wanting to know for sure that they died as reported, but I cannot figure out why these people say anything other than "I want to see all the facts before I make any judgments". AFAIAC, I don't want these scum in my society, and this guy just saved us a lot of time, effort, and money by eliminating them the way they should be eliminated under very clear circumstances.
Posted by: gorb   2007-06-30 17:10  

#13  She and her husband, Ivory Jones, pastor of a Fort Lauderdale church, sat on their front porch in Fort Lauderdale on Thursday wondering how a man could shoot two people and not go to jail.

Yo, fuckwit. It ain't murder if it's self-defense. Nice of the reporter to stick that line in there for all the anti-gun folks. Lovell did us all a favor by taking out the trash.

They said their grandson sometimes hung with the wrong crowd but never got into legal trouble.

At least their grandson will think twice before he ever indulges in armed robbery again.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-06-30 15:39  

#12  Actually, I believe he'll get a football scholarship to U of Miami Hurricanes

the last thing I heard from shipman waz, "when the poopoo hits the prop".

anyone know what kinda trouble he's in??
click pic


fyi, Ima the Bird of Courage, a Bird of Knowledge, a Bird of Strength, a Bird of Speed, a Bird of Deep Strategic Thinking and the Leader of my species.

/Ima really the Dirty Bird! >:)
Posted by: RD   2007-06-30 15:13  

#11  "Granny should be bitch-slapped for even saying that crap. Your grandson was a piece of shit and got what he deserved"
Frank G - Outstanding comment, I agree completely! The recently deceased was a piece of excrement and deserves everything he got. The acompliss needs a bit of sepsis to send him on his way with his buddy
Posted by: Robjack   2007-06-30 15:12  

#10  lol
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-06-30 13:42  

#9  Hope they send the guy to the chamber or however they do it in FLA.

actually, I believe he'll get a football scholarship to U of Miami Hurricanes

/funning with shipman
Posted by: Frank G   2007-06-30 13:38  

#8  Lovell needs to spend some time down at the range. Seven shots and three hits. I'd expect 7 for 7 for someone with his background.

Got to love the felony murder rule. Lovell should make a great witness. Hope they send the guy to the chamber or however they do it in FLA.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-06-30 13:35  

#7  but never got into legal trouble.

Ain't been caught yet, you mean.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2007-06-30 13:28  

#6  But Gadson's grandmother, Rosa Jones, said:
(Snip)
She and her husband, Ivory Jones, pastor of a Fort Lauderdale church,

Miss your share of the take Mama? "For the church" of course.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2007-06-30 13:26  

#5  If it had happened in Britain, it wouldn't have ended as well.
Posted by: DMFD   2007-06-30 13:09  

#4  Granny should be bitch-slapped for even saying that crap. Your grandson was a piece of shit and got what he deserved
Posted by: Frank G   2007-06-30 12:29  

#3  They said their grandson sometimes hung with the wrong crowd but never got into legal trouble.

Looks like that streak is over, granny.
If he lives...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-06-30 12:25  

#2  Please excuse the interruption. TESTING 1 2 3.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2007-06-30 12:23  

#1  Ya Just gotta love that constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Makes life a real bitch for the bad guys!
Posted by: 49 Pan    2007-06-30 12:02  

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